Major Update "Firebirds" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

Only if you had the fastest reload rate in game at 4 seconds, maybe that would make up for the shells being better than quite a few

3.4 instead of 4.0 would make up for one of the slowest turret rotations in game and horrible handling at speeds and turning on the spot

Oh and pratically no armor so any return shot is going to make my day just awful

are we insinuating that this out reloads the S tank?

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You can almost flip the type 10 if you take a turn to fast :)

Vs Challenger 2

  • a faster reload
  • bigger ready rack
  • better shell
  • Higher top speed
  • probably equal or better handling

Its slightly slower rotation speed than the challenger 2, got that the wrong way round

What’s 3.4 achieving that 4.0 doesn’t already do? Either way, it’s the best in game.

Man it must be exhausting trying to find the negatives in everything.

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for now

Challenger 2 is more survivable better armor. better chance of getting a return shot kill.

What would / could beat it?

3.4 its cuts the return shot of a enemy tank down alot

Do you think the type 10 round is some one hit nuke round ?

Yeah but the advantage is already there to begin with.

0.6s is a big deal if the base reload is like 5-7s, but at 4s… who you tryna beat but yourself lol

The Strv 103, if given its proper reload and best piece of ammunition its not half bad if used very defensive

It had a variant of Slpprj m/90 and the L74 gun would mildly increase its pen to be like 440mm at a 3.2 sustained reload rate

It would survive maybe a single shot but the idea is to not be seen before you get two shots off as its still a right bugger to spot on thermals in good spots

Its a hole puncher with the worst spalling of any round arguable at top tier

Spalling against things with liners sucks for everyone. That’s not a Japan-unique problem.

Because the firfst shot with a type 10 round sometimes doesnt do shit because the round simple doesnt spall. Iit sometimes takes a second shot because of how poor that spall is

just barely worse than the Ariete

As someone who plays both Italy and Britain, that’s just a crazy statement. The Challenger 3 (TD) isn’t a competitive tank but putting it in the same line as the Arietes is a crazy reach.

The TD has actual turret and hull armour unlike the Arietes and talk about mobility all you want, it’s nothing of note and especially compared to vehicles like the T-80BVM or Leclerc.

The Arietes are still the worst modern MBT in-game and the gap between the Arietes and TD is pretty large.

Oh but the 5 second reload! - this has started to become the norm for NATO vehicles making this less of a redeeming factor.

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It was when your tank is made of paper and the crew is so closer and return shot is messing you up

Again? How is that a Japanese only issue?

L27A1 from the Challenger 2 quite often does no post pen damage, and it has less pen than the Type 10 round so less chance of pen to begin with.

5 second reload with 4 round ready rack vs 4 second reload with 14 round ready rack gives the Type 10 way better short term fire rate and sustained fire rate than the Challenger 2. Better than most nations in game in fact