Major Update "Firebirds" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

ok I’ve been made aware of probably the weirdest angry mob in existence… why are some Swedish players mad about the decision to make a separate AIM120 viggen?

Gaijin just solved 2 problems, without even creating a new problem really… they Fixed Swedens less than stellar top tier premium grinder plane problem.

They gave the Tech Tree players who want AIM120s, a platform that (apparently) will be foldered so it’ll be dirt cheap. They gave the people who didn’t want AIM120s the ability to keep their existing 12.0 Viggen, un touched.

Like I see people mad about this decision when it’s quite possibly the best decision Gaijin has made this entire update.

Edit: Side note why are people so shocked about 4 AIM-120s at 13.0? “ooooooh spooky the AV-8b+ has the same loadout but it gets 9Ms as well, more CMs, a way better radar!, also the ICE is this BR, OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO spooky!”

1 Like

Yep, agreed. Id be pissed of the F3 had been moved up to 13.3 just to save on the grind. Kinda envious the Viggen Di is being foldered if that is the case.

2 Likes

dude as someone who had to watch the J-8F get given the Ol Yeller treatment when Seek and Destroy came out. I’m super envious of Sweden mains right now. That plane was so good and it’d be an amazing 12.3 without PL-12s, but nope.

Maybe if PL-12s got their actual performance it would be better.

Aren’t IRL PL-12s more like Aim-120Cs?

The solution isn’t to move the F-4F ICE down, which will cause more strife to 12.0 vehicles who already arguably have too many ARH missiles to deal with, but to move the rest of the top tier bullies up.

Moving other planes up may seem like a less precise instrument when it comes to balancing, but I think it actually works better - the decompression changes that were introduced earlier this year did a great job of making some of the less enjoyable 9.3/9.7/10.0s more so.

1 Like

I stopped using it a long time ago. It used to be very good in my opinion (until the arrival of the South African sub-tree). For some reason, now I can’t hit anything with it. It’s like it just goes through the targets without touching them.

So this is my problem. I’m probably one of the players who lives farthest south on the planet in the entire game. My ping is between 200 and 220.

That has been fixed for the most part, at least I’ve had it once in the past few months and I was connected to a US server I beleive and had about 100 - 150 ping. The people who most commonly seem to encounter issues are those from Australia who have consistantly high Pings.

Yeah, that would do it. Stormer is entirely dependent on a good ping to be good. (though I feel they could mitigate that through things as simple as an indicator for how far away the missiel was from the target, like a countdown to impact. As if nothing else, its really hard to judge distance with the starstreaks and you are never quite sure if its phased, missed or not even close

I’ll try it again, then. I’ll give it a chance until I unlock the OSA. Ever since I found out it was coming, I’ve been eager to deploy the T-90 and set up an Indian lineup.

So far, we haven’t seen any indigenous Indian vehicles in the British tech tree. I’m looking forward to seeing the Marut and the Tejas, but until I see an Indian-built vehicle in the British tech tree, my theory is that they’re reserving them for an Indian tech tree.

Im personally hope they are few and far between. WAY too many British vehicles, perticularly on the ground, have yet to be added and those we do have are in need of major TLC.

That’s true, but it still won’t be enough if we want to maintain a reasonable pace of adding new vehicles. That’s why I think the current tech trees are (and will continue) receiving multiple sub-trees. Recently, even Smin used the term “sub-nation” when referring to India (about a month ago or less).

The Mirage 2000-5Ei, if nothing else, dealt a blow to at least half of my conspiracy theory.

Good. I’m glad to not have to be Blackpilled.

It’s just hilarious how this update additions is via backlashes, I’m sure if Indian lovers moan about a Mirage 2000 enough this update we get one lol

Like come on Smin it wouldn’t be fair if the Swedish got there tech tree jet via moaning. : P

nuh uh

They should be similar to 120C-5 iirc, so yea

3 Likes

They are now getting the Di as a tech tree aircraft after people moaned about it being premium only

What they were complaining about wasn’t that it was a premium, but that it and only it was originally planned to get RB99s, with the tech tree JA37D not getting them.

2 Likes

I’ve read that they’re somewhere between C-1 and C-5.

1 Like

Around that, yea.

J-10A and JF-17 the same hud problem, I hope them haven’t be forgeted

3 Likes