Major Update "Firebirds" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

It did, though not overly the most valuable addition for it. Carrying any A2G loadout on it is quite a cost, so in ASB it wasnt worth it and in GRB, probably better off using the AGM-65s. The GBU-39s its getting this update though have greater pylon value.

But things like the ePaveways from the Harrier Gr7 were definetly missing last update. and fingers crossed Gunjob got the bug report in in-time for them to be added before the update drops. Far greater value on that

Adding those it does even out to 9vs 9

But still people are complaining about this update not the last one, and this update Britain got a ton of stuff

Its now a British aircraft. Gotta wait the required 6 months before they can start looking at bug reports.

But yeah, i’ve not bothered grinding it yet. I dont really see the point, just a straight downgrade over the Tornado Gr1 for the most part. Was messing around on the dev server with it and I see the value for it in the future, but not with so many bug reports pending

I always think of Sep as part 1 and Oct as part 2 anyway.

Also compared to last year… US could do with not getting something EVERY update for a change.

Like this update last year, US was 1 of 3 nations to get any aircraft. All UK got was the M109 C&P, Vickers Mk11 and the Iron Duke Premium.

They’ve done a far better job this year making it balanced

Also, we only got OSA because it was an easy C&P and we werent meant to get it at all. GR4 and Repulse are remodels of existing vehicles as well. (I also want to point that US still has 5 Rank VI ships vs Britains now 3)

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and every one of those rank 6 ships behaves like a powder keg

go call the DoD to stop making so much stuff if you dont want the US to get new things, we have a whole lot left for the game

As does most nations:

Britain air for example:

UK could also end up with twice as many BBs (if we include some refits) as the US in the long run as well.

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eh i feel like your considering all the british battleships but forgetting about the many US battleships that existed as well

if the UK just had more BB classes youre right though, although some classes could get 2 of the same class due to refits.

we got like 3 possible Iowa classes alone, each different

Dont forget, the US only overtook the UK in number of active ships at the end of the war. for most of it, the US had a lot less than the UK

the UK could have 6 different Queen-Elizabeth class ships

but would there be any meaningful difference betwene them? there are still all the pre iowa 16in US battleships to add, each can get like 2 versions from refits, and the 3 iowa class, and then if gaijin blesses us with carriers, the US will be king in that aspect

no swedish submarine bc that thing had to be carried in the back of another ship to the excerciese

Well. You have the WW1 refits like Barham but @Tictaculer would probably be better for each of the different variants than me, but yes, varying degrees of armour and AA upgrades.

Then you also have Rodney and Nelson for 16" ships and the HMS Vanguard which would reasonably match Iowa as well.

If it sticks to mostly WW2 / just after WW2, then actually. Not really. Royal Navy Carriers were often better during WW2, featuring things like armoured flight decks. Its why UK ships were rarely damaged by Kamikaze attacks when the Pacific fleet arrived.

Its not until more like the 1950s that US carriers completely overtake UK ones.

we can get colorado, 1920 south dakota, North Carolina, 1939 South dakota, and iowa class

how does the armament and capacity hold up though?

UK can get

  • KGV-class(1911)
  • QE-class (WW2 Refit) + maybe a WW1 refit for the TT
  • Nelson-Class
  • Revenge-class
  • N3-class
  • KGV-class (1939)
  • Lion-class
  • Vanguard-class

and probably a few i’ve misssed

HMS_Valiant_(1914)


well the main examples of “big” refits that did not change the role of the ship would be valiant as it changed the superstructure and all of the secondarys along with the usual engine changes

the 6 that were actually made, yeah

It isn’t, though. There are many fourth gen airframes better than it.

Lion-class was laid down but canceled, fully addable in game.

im not saying UK BBs didnt get refits, but that Morvan initially failed to account for the pretty big refits a lot of US BB got for ww2

In any case.

“US gets more than the UK because it has more to add”

does not apply to naval.

UK has either more or equal to the US. and thats just looking at BBs

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