Major Update “Air Superiority” - Rumor Round-Up and Discussion (Part 4)

Maybe a little worse than 2A7V, but still better than 2A5, 2A6, PSO

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it would be very similar to the 2a6 its more on par with the 2a6 currently then the 2a7V

if we ever get spain would be either in italy or germany, france could also be another option.

the AgustaWestland AW159 Wildcat with 20 anti air Marlet missiles

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Spain is largely between Italy, France, and Germany. They use technology from all 3.

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The 2A5(A6), PSO does not have additional armor on the body and the gunner does not have thermal imagers of the 2nd or 3rd generation, which all the game tops of all nations have, but the Swedes deservedly lack. A country that just asks to be pushed into it on Cv90105

the challenger 3 has less armour on the hull as it is the same as the challenger 2, the top speeds of the 2 are very similar with the 2a6 still being better 61km/h to 59km/h the guns would be very similar, the turret armour of the 2a6 is more effective then the the Challengers (even tho long rod penetrators like DM53 should ignore the destabilisation of the Leos cheek armour ) and has a smaller cannon breach shot making it harder to pen the turret of the leo 2a6 the big thing the challenger 3 has is 3rd gen thermals for both gun and commander where as the 2a6 is 1st gen

That would be the PLAN.

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Leclerc have thermals, but lacks all other

As if this is a good enough reason, the German lineup was already stacked it wasnt necessary

They’re also approaching near French level of stupidity. The 2A5/6 are fine tanks, but they aren’t the 122’s. The PSO is essentially a 2A5 with armor that doesn’t even work properly still.
Then they don’t have the light tanks that they’ve been asking for. So it’s a line up consisting mostly of just MBT’s.

Tanks like the 2A6EX or Demo-II would have been good additions as well but people would still complain that Germany’s getting tanks that fill their capability gaps.

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And since now German mains have exactly what they wanted same armor now they have superior ammo and thermals but we still “deservedly lack” anything else (ie better thermals)

Didn’t the other leaklist for this update say that USS Mississippi would be the NF event prize for this update ? Now that it 's( starting to ) appear in the devserver files, it seems more likely that she would be the event ship rather than Novo.

The chances of getting H-39 seems solid, based on this dev answer:
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( [QA] Answers from the developers - News - War Thunder )

It does make a certain kind of sense that they plan for more nations to field ships that can fight the Iowa 's and Yamato 's than just the ones which will be fielding Iowa and Yamato. Sovetskyy Soyuz is definitely in our future as well, probably for a similar reason that the devs are receptive to the idea of implementing H-39 - the soviet ship is already in WT Mobile fighting Yamato and Iowa:

And the battlecruiser Stalingrad is there along w/ it, one of the vehicles which proved they can add the same models to both games ( Stalingrad BC was leaked in the files in game version 2.7.0.55 )

Abt HMS Lion though, I’m less convinced that this ship will appear ingame. GB has in-service ships much closer to the BB endgame of Iowa/Yamato than the above two do, plus from the WTM development of their aircraft carriers HMS Illustrious and HMS Implacable and the leaks of their missile destroyers BAP Ferre and HMS Glamorgan here it may be that they’ll have no need of unfinished BB 's as a response to the 406mm+ end-of battleships, as they’ll have many other completed ships ( non-BB ) available for that and beyond.

It 's been planned since the same time they announced work on their helicopter techtree( [QA] Answers from the developers - News - War Thunder ), and the PRC flag was added to the files section where the ones baked into the overall visual model of ships was prior to the change that allowed the " decal " versions to be used there
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So it 's been coming, just no ETA for it.

This QA answer might be related:
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( [QA] Answers from the developers - News - War Thunder )

As development into ships whose primary armament is not guns progresses, it becomes easier to integrate naval trees who lack the largest examples of those. They’ll have other kinds of vessel instead.

At present, it seems like missile-armed ships will be anywhere between 0.0 and 0.7 BR 's higher than similarly sized hulls which are less the missiles. From there, it 's probable that they’ll develop into BR 's equivalent to battleships( none of our current AShM-ships are there yet ), and possible that some might even exceed them.

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The situation is different still. The PLSS has had a small nerf, so it won’t be a lol-pen like the German Leopards are, the ammunition while not DM53 is still respectable, then the commanders CITV is on a telescopic mount. Sweden will still be just as much of a meta defining tech tree as before the coming update.

The kind of balance you are striving for is not possible if we are talking about real equipment.
For that kind of balance you need fantasy vehicles.

While War Thunder is no dedicated simulator it promotes authenticity if not realism.

Br decompression or asymmetrical but historic matchmaking would work best in my opinion.

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I still look down on 60,000+ tonne ships that only have paper statistics. The Yamato isn’t a good example as one because we know it has specific limitations.
The Bismarck is already equivalent to ships of similar weight class that other nations have as top of the line Battleships. The H-39 would be in the weird position of what I would consider acceptable, because it would be the third largest ship in game.

The Sovetsky Soyuz would however be the largest tonnage ship in game with statistics being whatever the devs decide on.

We already have USS Forrestal(CVA-59). And before anyone tries to say it doesn’t count, I’ll remind us that it was in the files of WT Mobile 's Beta for the same purpose the other aircraft carriers are there for - one which has evidence to be replicated here.

By the time we are ready for Eurofighter Tranche 1 should be the first we see in game.

Not a good comparison. One would be the largest tonnage battleship with paper statistics, the other is a super carrier that we actually know about.