Ah talk of the devil ! The account that does not even show when looked for in the WT community.So you are ShermyDraogns alt acc then lol
Shermydragon,you really are something else haha !
https://warthunder.com/en/community/searchplayers?name=thethrill8284257
Shermy liking his own posts lol .You could not make this up.
and you are dragging the post off topic.
I spoke of your fake account and up it pops lol then you both appear together just like magic.Outstanding : ) .
Why on earth would I make an alt account, then make dozens (if not more) of suggestions on it just to use it to argue with a schizophrenic?
Are you going to answer either of our questions? Or are you just going to fixate on what you want to be true?
Some of us work, maybe you’re an alt of Shermy since you’re arguing at the same time?
Delirious.
I think you may be stupid.
All because you cant look up stats for an argument.
Pathetic.
Then why would we need that as a vehicle? Others tanks exist. Putting it Below M109G wouldn’t make sense either lol
because it is much weaker than the M109, it is much easier to use, and more versatile play-style while introducing to derp gun.
The concept of different BR and different tiers exist as well.
How would it be much weaker if it would have 35mm pen on the gun? It is still strong enough to overpressure most tanks without having to worry about aiming, I thought vehicle suggestions were meant to be creative?
EDIT: Where would you put it that it’d make sense tho lol? Seriously rethinks this, if it was to be 5.0 or 4.7 it’d be playing against PZ IVs, Mediocre french tanks/premiums, horribly armored Italian Tanks like the Turan III, T-34s, T34-57s, all targets easy picking and no real way to counter it than to have a HMG/SPAA take it out? That’s not very ballanced.
“Without having to worry about aiming”
Other than, y’know, for spots that can actually overpressure
People say SPH vehicles don’t require aim all the time, and that’s not true. They have worse drop and velocity than 99% of other vehicles, plus have to aim for roofs/weakspots in the top armor of tanks…
And on your second point. Maybe instead of HMGs and SPAAs… Try shooting it in the massive, ammo-rack-carrying, unarmored turret first with practically any normal tank???
You say that like you cant just shoot the turret on all vehicles and you will overpressure the roof? What are you on about?
Also if it has low velocity why are you trying to snipe with it if you know you have teammates that can back you up?
Also saying gamble your round on ammo racking it is essentially not a good point, theres something called “luck” and most people using solid shot dont seem to have any ;)
The Turret of the M52 is loaded with shells.
It can also be penned by .50 cals
So is the VIDAR and the M109G’s turret, yet you don’t see them getting ammo racked often unless they get flanked no?
Vidar is relatively empty.
M109 gets ammo racked plenty.
Stop Cherrypicking.
How is it cherrypicking to talk about other vehicles that have ammo racks in the back? Should we just say the T-34-85/D5-T and IS-1 are easy to ammo rack because they also got an ammo rack in the back of the turret and get ammo racked “Plenty”?
Could you show me your replays where you or any other player got ammo racked/ammo racked an M109G? If not then why are you arguing it gets ammo racked plenty?
Also how the hell is vidar empty? The entire back section is an Ammo rack LOL not to mention the split cabins for commander/loader and the gunner, i think you dont know what you’re talking about.
EDIT: It’s not cherrypicking since the AuF1, M109, M109G, M109A1, 2S1, 2S3M, PLZ and Bkan 1C all have the same problem of the ammo rack in the back, doesnt mean they get 1 hit killed by being ammo racked, again you can just look at them on the wiki and tell this wouldn’t be a great addition since most vehicles at 4.7-5.7 are using APHE/APHEBC or some variation of explosive filler rounds (hell even HEAT that cant overpressure on the swedish tanks) which would mean you’d not be able to ammo rack it without direct fire line on the ammo rack, meaning you need to kill the crew first or make sure the path the shot takes actually makes it have enough fuze time to hit the ammunition stowage of the enemy. (This isn’t a problem on Bkan 1C because the Ammo rack is physically outside the vehicle and in the back, same on the M109A1 - you can just bait enemies to shoot another part of your vehicle)
the M109 have over twice the overpressure penetration and over 3 times the radius. yet it still have a lot of vehicles that can take the hit if it’s not aiming well.
the M52 will need to be extra careful otherwise it will miss and the projectile will be even slower.
a tank like the Tiger 1H would need to hit pretty low on the turret to hope to penetrate the 26mm of the roof of the chassis. the Panther is easier as it only has 16mm there and the distance from the roof needs to be a lot less. the M109 would not even care about it.
tank like the T-34 or M4 Sherman are just no-brainer for a M109. almost anywhere it hits it’s an instant kill. while the M52 will only be capable of destroying it if it hits low enough on the turret or hits the roof itself. a tank like the KV-1 would be nearly immune to it, the roof being 30mm will require to have a hit extremely close to his roof to give the overpressure.
visibily the firepower between those 2 is completely different.
but the M52 has one advantage which is the HEAT and HESH which allow for a direct fire where you aim for the crew inside like a real glass cannon and not a derp gun.
so yeah, the M52 is much weaker and yes the play style is much different. and yeah, it is easier to play and yeah, it has his purpose for the game.