similarly, any Soviet 85mm, 100mm, or 122mm cannon can fire HEAT-FS and APDS for the latter two.
M46 is also significantly faster in both forward and reverse than the normal Persh
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It won’t be lowered because Germany will suffer without their best winrates
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What does that matter when it is overshadowed by heavy tanks that are straight upgrades in every meaningful way.
The T26E5 for instance is a M26 that’s resistant to long 88mm even at close ranges… for the tradeoff of being ever so slightly slower.
Like why even purchase/crew the M26 then. What’s the point…
They ruined a good 6.3 medium tank by moving it up to 6.7 where it wasn’t needed at all.
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It’s 5 tonnes heavier. Not to mention it’s one of the best heavies at the BR with excellent protection. Not every vehicle can be the literal best possible vehicle. Wanting every vehicle to be the best possible is what leads to powercreep and compression.
At 6.3 there’s the Jumbo 76, T25, and T20, all of which are considerably worse than the M26.
Not to mention many 6.0s such as the Panthers, M4/T26, and Centurion Mk I, all far more than .3 lower in terms of capabilities.
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T25 and T20 don’t deserve 6.3. The M26 could see success there instead of being a T26E5 downgrade.
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+1.
I would move M26 to 6.3, and T25/T20 to 6.0
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Why?
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I like the Jumbo 76 a lot, IMO it’s on par with the M26. The stabilizer + armor is a good combo, and the firepower is similar enough. There’s very few things the 90 will pen that the 76 can’t.
As for the T25 and T20 you’d be right, because they don’t belong in 6.3. Move those back to 6.0 or 5.7 and problem is solved!
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Pretty much any heavy, as well as Panthers, when not at ideal angles. Additionally, the 90mm has over doubled the filler of the 76, making cupola, turret, sprocket, LFP, and otherwise off-center shots far more effective. The APCR round can easily penetrate Panther UFPs, Tiger IIs, and Jagdtigers. Meanwhile, a 76 is largely helpless against the other two except for barrel shots, which is a cop-out answer because then you can say that damn near any gun is as good as any other.
Terrible take, though it seems that nothing can convince you otherwise so not worth it. But claiming the T25 and T20 are only as good as a Sherman 76 or T-34-85 is ridiculous and only makes sense through very biased lenses. Now, the T20 could go to 6.0 and be fine, but no lower.
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It didn’t have a HEAT round - whether FS or not
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It is entirely possible to be fired from the 90mm M3 cannon.
Here it mentions the T108 shell (which is essentially the M348 HEAT-FS shell before being redesignated) being directly used with the T26E5 heavy tank prototypes which have the same 90mm M3 as the regular M26 Pershing:
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Im gonna tell you, you have never been penned in your UFP by a 75 jumbo, saying you have is such a massive lie.
It can but certainly not easily.
Ranges need to be 250 meters or lower for it to work reliably. The Panther also needs to be facing you directly completely. Any additional angle and you don’t penetrate.
In order to penetrate a Panther UFP with 90 mm APCR you need to be very aware of when it does and does not work.
And on top of that this only works in the first place because of a bug…
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From TM 9-1300-203, Artillery Ammunition, page 2-49. Couldn’t fire the absolutely latest rounds, but M348 HEAT, HESH with the appropriate cartridge case, and M332 could all be shot out of the basic M1/M2/M3 series of cannons.
Sure - there’s no reason why it COULDN’T fire HEAT - but was there HEAT given to the M26?
The T108 HEAT round is, in fact, HEAT-FS - See https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/tr/pdf/AD0088799.pdf
I don’t know what the service life of the M26 was, but development of the T108 HEAT round wasn’t initiated until 1950, so it can’t possibly be available before then… see https://www.bulletpicker.com/pdf/Development-of-Cartridge-90mm-HEAT-T300.pdf
This doesn’t matter as Gaijin simply does not care about if a vehicle actually did or didn’t fire a specific munition, only if it can or cannot.
T-44-100: has BR-412D APCBC, which in real life it never fired as this projectile had only been created once the T-54s were a thing.
T-34-100: same thing.
SU-122P: again, same, except with BR-471D.
F-89D: infamous proximity fuse rockets.
And likely other examples I’m not remembering.
Obviously this does not mean the M26 should get HEAT-FS. Balance is something to always take into consideration. But beyond that it would be entirely valid for it to get M348.
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This has been a big issue with me for a while. BR-412D was created after the T-34-100 and T-44-100 were scrapped, yet Gaijin gives both tanks access to it. Meanwhile, they won’t give the 90mms both early and late M82.
ngl M26 and Panther D/A/G/F should all be 6.0, And Tiger 1s and Jumbo should be 5.3
That’s not an absolute. The M41A1 could 100% fire HEATFS (the German one gets it) but it didn’t use HEATFS irl.
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