Level 100 players on low BR

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Imho you have to distinguish between a seal clubber and a stat padder.

The effect for new players is the same, but a seal clubber in the narrow sense is using op vehicles to get kills, the stat padder adds excellent pilot skills to an op vehicle. Both fly the same planes (undertiered single engine fighters) but it needs complete different tactics to fight them.

Imho you can distinguish them by K-D and how they fly.

Seeing this:

…you might want to revisit prop BRs in Air RB.

There are a lot of squads/players specialized to push stats with Rank I & II planes. This player profile (link to thunderskill) is just for explanatory reasons to prove my point (so no intention to name and shame), but you meet such guys way too often to justify your claim “few”.

Whilst starting the Chinese TT i ran in my second match in reserve biplane in a guy with 35.000 kills with rare rank I & II event vehicles. Ofc i avoided the fight as it makes no sense to fight a guy with an aced crew in a MBR-2 and getting sprayed down by ai gunners…i watched the replay, 5 of his 7 kills were done by ai gunners…

I do not think that these guys have other reasons than to push stats, but it is a disaster for newbies if they meet with 20 minutes Air RB experience such players.

Imho i can agree to this whilst facing a seal clubber as they tend to make basic mistakes regarding positioning and tactic / target priorisation.

But for stat padders this is nonsense - real stat padders flying undertiered single engine fighters are usually very good pilots - they simply deny any fights with the slightest disadvantage; you might get them in rare cases as last player if their last friendly made a mistake.

Fighting 2 of them solo is pointless as you just doubled the problem.

Regarding the OP:

I recommend that every new player should use the tools the game actually offers. So doing a kind of lobby check regarding vehicle stats (not level) right after spawn in order to identify the best enemy players is useful to identify them.

Trying to dogfight real stat padders as newbie is pointless, at least at Rank I or 2. Sometimes it is wise just to land and j out - in the hope that you get a “better” lobby.

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Imho there is nothing wrong with playing Rank I & II as experienced player. Seeing that a lot of iconic WW2 tanks are at rank II, this is actually quite comprehensible.

As the underlying reasons doing this might differ, there is no right or wrong.

The question is simply if you want to increase your already existing advantage based on experience by using the best weapon system available in order to have a kind of turkey shooting or not.

As i fly only WW2 props in Air RB i do not see any reason to fly below rank III as it is incredibly hard to find the right balance between fun & challenge at rank I & II - the performance and experience gaps are imho too large there.

So the imbalances within the aircraft / BR setting and the rather low experience level of players / opponents on average gives you two options:

  1. Fly meta/undertiered single engine fighters vs less experienced pilots ending up with a lot of kills (maybe fun?), but no challenge
    or
  2. Fly non-meta planes and avoid single engine fighters (less kills, but fun & challenge) in order to allow my enemies to compensate their lack of experience on average with superior performance.

I decided that #2 is for me the best choice to create the perfect mix of challenge and fun. Yes, you are screwed if you meet an equally skilled player in far better plane, but as the match results became mostly random events idc.

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If you’re going to seal club, do it right. 😉

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Fun besides. I go to the lower ranks when I’m exhausted from higher tiers. It is forgiving and I blend in perfectly because my patience is almost at a minimum.
I don’t like it when players do it only to get an advantage no matter what the reason is. I thought often about a handicap that could be applied to players with a decent number of battles and wins. But don’t take this too serious pls.

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New players face AI bots and other new players, not level 100 players. Unless your brother bought some tier 3+ premium he should not be facing level 100s.

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What about all the complaints regarding low tier players at top tier.Is there anywhere we are allowed to play? Who do we apply to for permission?

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I often rage about that … I got to admit that. But who am I to say they have to stay out. I just hope they learn and improve like most of us do. The rage is my problem and I gotta deal with it … and my wife sometimes.

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I don’t think you are alone there.

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And buying premium vehicles will also increase “player level” too, so . . . . just so many do not fully understand that level does not equate to “skill” . . or game knowledge or much of anything besides playing time, and as I stated even that can be skewed by money spent on the game . . . C’est la Vie

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Dude - i showed a classic example of a player profile racking up ~ 10 k kills in 3 rank I and 1 rank II aircraft and you come up with such a claim??

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I didn’t read your posts, what I know is that new players face AI bots or other new players in this game, until they reach a certain rank or BR they will keep facing AI bots or other new players like them. This won’t happen if that new player owns a tier 3+ vehicle and the only way for them to own one at start is by buying a tier 3+ premium.

What does this that I just said has to do with someone racking up 10k kills in lower ranks?

I actually never faced AI bots when I started cause I bought some packs the day I installed the game on PS4, so I know what it is to face level 100s when you start playing this game and I played with a PS4 controller.

These discussions are ridiculous, lower level vehicles are not meant to be played by lower level players, they are meant to be played by everyone that likes to play them. I just don’t know where some of you thought that low level vehicles are ONLY for low level players, sounds like the other guy saying that Arcade is for beginners and that all level 100s should be playing Realistic Battles.

Mind your own business and let others play the way they enjoy.

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But really, I think players with those kinds of numbers at that rank/BR are the exception, not the Rule. I go and play tier I from time to time, usually just trying to get some camos and that sorta thing. Usually not for very long or that many games I don’t think & notice all those lvl 8’s & 10’s have no problem or issue blowing me to smithereens every chance they get . . . lol. And I have no hard feelings about it. I play mid tiers mostly . … I like 4.3 BR in Air AB a lot, a little higher in tanks I guess, 5.3 - 5.7 mostly. I have some good games here and there, but overall, I think the competition is pretty well balanced in most games. Yeah the MM’er will throw you a curve now and then, but skill levels seem more on par with each other and level seriously doesn’t matter there . . not that I can tell. But yeah . . . personal preference I guess.

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That is false. New players get 10 games against bots and then are dumped into the regular queues. Regardless of what you bought.

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The game should performance index players in queues based on… K/D or whatever. That way players face those of comparable skill and challenge level.
But of course Gaijin won’t do that because there are whales that pay good money to be able to pretend that they are good at the game because they can plink newbies.

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When I play below 4.0BR I just turn my brain off and vibe.

Sometimes I end up sweeping unintentionally, and sometimes I accomplish nothing.

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Seal clubbers stay at low BR to maliciously harm new players.
Stat padders care about their overall KDR and play low BR.

Typically, if the player has KDRs through all BRs then they’re neither.

Like myself, my KDR largely doesn’t change from 1.0 to top as an example.
I want to play Shermans, doesn’t mean I’m better in Shermans than I am Abrams.
I also put far less effort into lower BRs because I’m tired or want to play longer that day.

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Use Google before posting…

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I have the right to play which ever rank I want, some days I want to play my german 10+ lineup and some days I want to play my russian 4.7 lineup. Just because youve researched the higher ranks doesnt mean you have to stop playing everything else. And I like to go back and research the modifications I still miss.

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Lol. Go create a new account (do they still let you create a “Guest” newbie account?) and see how dumb you posts are.

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Google…