Lets talk about the state of Germany

The German Leopard 2 hull armour is worse than Leclercs.

What

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Our fuel tank and more of our turret ring is unprotected.

I can definitely get behind the spall nerf for the mantlet needs to be removed though.

in other words, hull armor doesn’t exist!

btw, if anyone is interested in the DM121 Germany uses

total weight 43.5kg (https://www.gichd.org/fileadmin/uploads/gichd/Publications/GICHD_Ukraine_Guide_2022_Second_Edition_web.pdf)
filler weight 11.5kg of RH26 (VJTF | Rheinmetall and above link, although that one has a typo, missing the “5”)
RH26 is 90% RDX and 10% binding agent (https://beckassets.blob.core.windows.net/product/readingsample/15746383/3527337768_c01.pdf), around the same as C-4 (which has 91% RDX for an 1.34 RE factor) thus giving DM121 an TNT equivalency of 15.4kg
Lastly its muzzle velocity depends on charge and outside temperature. Peak with extended range charge is ~1011 m/s at 21°C, ~947 m/s with standard DM92


https://www.rheinmetall.com/Rheinmetall%20Group/brochure-download/Weapon-Ammmunition/B323e0522-Extended-range-charge-for-155mm-artillery.pdf

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Also ofc compatibility with NATO standard fuses. Holy shit I want a DM121 (PF) instead of the M107 based proxy fused rounds


I found this by accident, Diehl Defence x Leonardo, Vulcano 127mm and 155mm precision guided round for Navy and Artillery. Idk what it it is tho. Precision guided HE? SAP? AP?

its sabot too XD

thats basically a better excalibur round better range, better precision (1m) and also able to use laser marker (excalibur cant) and with that is supposed to be able to hit driving vehicles

Vidar is fine at 8.0 as someone that both used & faced it.
As an example: Just cause IPM1 works at 12.0 doesn’t mean it should be 12.0.

I forgot how loud that thing is. It’s something that can absolutely terrify anyone nearby but also alert everyone that there’s a PzH2000.

Pzh 2000 damn maps need to be wayyyyyys bigger than what we got in the game right now for bring new system for arty I’m not gonna enjoy playing that thing on a map like Abandoned factory.

IF they implement the burst fire mode, it would be a competent brawler despite its size.

Otherwise it would definitely struggle.

Blockquote The German Leopard 2 hull armour is worse than Leclercs.

How are you supposed to argue with people like this lol.

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Its german it HAS to be the largest vehicle of its type.

Honestly why i love germany. The maus, class 3p, flarakrad, puma, all absolute lads.

still no that thing are too damn big and i’m not a good brawler with any kind of tanks too

YOU CALL THAT BIG I CALL THIS BIG

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you… you realy want to compare guns with GERMANY?

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except your gustav cant move on its own without having too much crew and even longer to make rails for it while 2b1 can move by itself and use nuclear shells

Everyone Gangsta until the Gustav drifts by and wipes your team in one shot

Ps: Did that stop the Polar Express?

except oka would do the same while not needing rails and shit ton of crew

we were comparing sizes of the caliber not capability lol, you wanna compare an old ww2 artillery with a more modern one of course its gonna be better