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Any source to back up your claims ?

To put it more precisely:
Shot /seconds
3/10
10/60
20/180
and that would be a little bit creepy for everyone.

Since 3/10 burst is immediately possible again within a few seconds if the weapon system has enough grenades in stock again.

Eh. The PzH2K has better reload (and no ready rack, though the VIDAR really shouldnt either) and the shells are nutty with like 15 to 16kg of TNTe, but everything else is equal at best.
PzH2K has commander optics with good zoom (2x - 8x), but I’m not sure if it has commander override in the WT sense, probably depends how you interpret the

■ Panoramic vision, target designation and target
identification during day or night, using the monocular
eyepiece.
■ Rangefinding to the target by laser-rangefinder.

gunner sight on the other hand is pure 8x, not really great for overview nor sniping
PzH2K completely lacks any sort of thermal device, its night vision at best, mobility is also worse in both top speed and power/weight ratio (VIDAR on 18.4, on PzH 17.9 without hedgehog, 17.3 with) Armor wont hold anything beyond MG fire or light autocannons on either vehicle
And its huge

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It can do 12 shots in one minute.
Thats 5.5 seconds per rounds on average, only a little higher than the initial burst of ~4 seconds per round
(BTW, always remember that you start with round in the chamber when calculating reload from X shots in Y seconds)

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I’m aware of this, but the 12 shots/minute are not used because of the heating of the barrel ;)

It literally brings hell on earth.

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As we say in Germany, “Das muss das Boot Rohr abkönnen”

Besides, Gajin already has an overheat mechanic, they surely are able to tack that on the PzH, right?

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that would require gajin to actualy fix the overpressue mechanic, or did it shoot AP shells as well?

No AP as far as I’m aware.

you could probably fit the HE rounds with a delayed action fuse and get some SAP-like shell. Doubt it would pen more than 100 to 150mm though

As far as I know, only HE, but it would still tear apart any tank if hit.

But AP wouldn’t make any sense either.

155 mm Artillerie-Munition
… Dazu zählen unter anderem Sprenggeschosse – auch mit insensitivem Sprengstoff , Leuchtgeschosse im IR und visuellen Bereich, Multispektral-Nebelgeschosse, die Suchzündermunition SMArt sowie Übungsgeschosse.

SMart Ammo 🤪

The German Leopard 2 hull armour is worse than Leclercs.

What

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Our fuel tank and more of our turret ring is unprotected.

I can definitely get behind the spall nerf for the mantlet needs to be removed though.

in other words, hull armor doesn’t exist!

btw, if anyone is interested in the DM121 Germany uses

total weight 43.5kg (https://www.gichd.org/fileadmin/uploads/gichd/Publications/GICHD_Ukraine_Guide_2022_Second_Edition_web.pdf)
filler weight 11.5kg of RH26 (VJTF | Rheinmetall and above link, although that one has a typo, missing the “5”)
RH26 is 90% RDX and 10% binding agent (https://beckassets.blob.core.windows.net/product/readingsample/15746383/3527337768_c01.pdf), around the same as C-4 (which has 91% RDX for an 1.34 RE factor) thus giving DM121 an TNT equivalency of 15.4kg
Lastly its muzzle velocity depends on charge and outside temperature. Peak with extended range charge is ~1011 m/s at 21°C, ~947 m/s with standard DM92


https://www.rheinmetall.com/Rheinmetall%20Group/brochure-download/Weapon-Ammmunition/B323e0522-Extended-range-charge-for-155mm-artillery.pdf

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I found this by accident, Diehl Defence x Leonardo, Vulcano 127mm and 155mm precision guided round for Navy and Artillery. Idk what it it is tho. Precision guided HE? SAP? AP?

its sabot too XD

thats basically a better excalibur round better range, better precision (1m) and also able to use laser marker (excalibur cant) and with that is supposed to be able to hit driving vehicles

Vidar is fine at 8.0 as someone that both used & faced it.
As an example: Just cause IPM1 works at 12.0 doesn’t mean it should be 12.0.

I forgot how loud that thing is. It’s something that can absolutely terrify anyone nearby but also alert everyone that there’s a PzH2000.

Pzh 2000 damn maps need to be wayyyyyys bigger than what we got in the game right now for bring new system for arty I’m not gonna enjoy playing that thing on a map like Abandoned factory.

IF they implement the burst fire mode, it would be a competent brawler despite its size.

Otherwise it would definitely struggle.