because its probably jet fuel according to gajooble that explodes if you look wrong at it…
Believe me when I tell you that the Leopard 2 has no armor ingame either.
I’ve been shot out more times than not by vehicles like the 2S38 and similar because the nose armor doesn’t even protect against it.
Butter has more resistance than the chassis of the Leo 2 in the game.
Although 520mm of armor is specified for the front, nobody hits that spot in the game because it is so microscopically small compared to the rest.
There are therefore three options:
- Option hit in the ammunition storage - garage
2nd option hit on driver side - 75% of crew dead - garage - Option hit in the base plate - see 1 and 2
Unfortunately, I can’t judge what it’s like with the French.
Unfortunately, this is also my impression,
did we already discuss the VT1 changes and how much did it help
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yeah heard from a friend about it, VT1s are actually not trash anymore, at least at closer ranges.
Actually a pretty decent buff. The missile can finally manouver very soon after launch, making it acceptable at countering rushing helicopters.
The fin AoA and wing area multiplier buff, as well as lateral acceleration actually allow it to pull even at longer ranges now, after both the main engine and booster run out.
I’ve gotten kills at 9km’s against F-16Cs with it, altho it still lags behind other hard punchers such as Pantsir or TOR.
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i am like 70k rp away from the flakrakpz1, then gotta take the choice for leo2a4 or flakrakrad research
Thanks for the update since I can’t test drive those ones yet.
I’ll still take your statement that it performs worse than a 30G missile with a grain of salt until I test it personally.
It’s more so that Pantsir as a whole is better (notice how I never compared the VT-1 and 95Ya6 there?). The missile has a longer burn time, meaning it keeps generating kinetic energy for longer, which translates into manouverability upkeep.
If both missiles had the same deltaV and burn time, VT-1 would be superior - however we’re looking at two different methodologies clashing;
- longer sustained rocket burn time but lower manouverability off the bat
- higher manouverability right off the bat but shorter burn time
If we compare just the missiles alone, they could be considered equeal, BUT, Pantsir has a significantly better radar, and said radar sees further both horizontally and vertically, not to mention it has automatic guidance modes (which although not necessary, are a huge help).
Aside from that it has 3rd generation thermals, and… GUNS! Yes, the guns really make it special. It doesn’t need to waste missiles on low and close flying helicopters.
not to mention the ability to defend itself from approaching missles /bombs
it definitely doesnt feel like a 50G missile, thats for sure.
Yeah, 95Ya6 loses all maneuverability after 11km, and it still doesn’t have enough within 11km to hit a mach 0.9 target.
Radar detecting doesn’t help the missile.
Automatic guidance is a nerf with Pantsir as it makes the missile difficult to control as without doing direct control would miss 100% of the time.
I saw some leclerc get slaughtered by an m22 today
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Nerf or not it doesn’t matter that thing still have best radar and range that all matters and the game still don’t let players see that thing past 18 KM
Wow man, almost like… you’ve never played it and can only speak about it theoretically (i’ve gotten 14km kills with it…).
Radar detecting doesn’t help the missile.
It means you have far superior awareness, because you see further horizontally and vertically. Awareness is literally the most important part for SPAA’s lmao. You can’t utilise your missile if you don’t even know that something is there… I thought this part is uber obvious, but apparently not.
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Just cause I haven’t played the ITO since first year’s dev server 2023 doesn’t mean I can’t inquire.
At least I assume you mean ITO since I’ve stated multiple times I’ve used Pantsir and fought far more times against it cause it’s very easy to avoid getting hit.
As for awareness, I just aim my optics at their air spawn, and radar scope at 20 - 30km. Radar will pick up them on spawn, especially the heli spawns that I’m not looking at, and the thermals will have me seeing them rather quickly.
Granted, SPAA is largely useless against aircraft at the top end in general, tho I have killed a number of people that chose to do reckless tactics instead of easy kills tactics.
It precisely means you can’t inquire. Your “experience” (if you can call it that) is outdated, and likely wasn’t even done so in an actual match, but in a test drive - or, a custom where nobody pays special attention to anything…
I’ve used Pantsir
Average 1.57 K/B
My average in FlaRakRad is 1.4, whereas my Pantsir is 1.8 (indicating Pantsir as an SPAA is more effective overall… just going around and saying that nothing but the missile itself matter is selling a lie).
“But hey guys, VT-1 is soo much better because it has 50G on the statcard hehe”.
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KPB with SPAA is 100% reliant on people choosing to spawn aircraft, which is not certain, thus cannot be used as a comparative statistic.
To demand that people don’t inquire into things is against the process of learning & science.
It means people are opting to spawn aircraft even if they’re fighting against S-tier SPAA’s… and who spawns the most usually? Russia & US, but somehow my German SPAA (which fights both 90% of the time) is performing worse, huh, I wonder why… probably something to do with it being overall worse (but hey, VT-1 pulling 50G on the statcard will 100% recitify it lmfao).
Your anti-science argument is sad.
You don’t even know what anti-science is lmfao. You’re absolutely delusional, I still remember people having to actually explain to you what scientific method is… guess you never learned anything. Throwing around buzz words won’t magically make your arguments become reality or a fact.
Weird quoting yourself at the end.
You’re the saddest person ever.
Now I’m just waiting for you to get salty, and start flagging like you always do :)
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Not sure why you keep claiming VT-1 pulls 50Gs without supplying evidence.
You demanded that I cannot make inquiries, which is anti-science, information suppression.
A demand that I stay lacking knowledge while you make claims on VT-1 without evidence.
You never explained the scientific method to me because no one on the forums has, I’ve explained it to a few people since I’m a scientist, but that’s about it.
You can flag German players all you want, I don’t.