Lets talk about the state of Germany

The ATTICA 3rd gen imager was tested on the PSO, and is a drop in replacement for the EMES 15 thermal imager, currently we will have to see if it still is just a dev server thing or if they want to stay like that, plan b use is using the commanders sight and shooting with it

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Actually EMES 15 is just the sights, WBG-X is the thermal imager. ATTICA is a drop in replacement for WBG-X. But this can happen with basically every leopard in game, testing doesn’t necessarily mean it would be implemented unless you have a source that states the PSO had ATTICA thermals (as advertised), not just testing.

what matter is that it was installed and i only want that the tank to get better, problem is for a tech demonstrater is to find actual prove of it sadly

I agree, I also want the PSO to be better. But we all know Gaijin can’t just take your word on it, so if you do have the source of the testing of ATTICA on the PSO, you can try to submit it as a suggestion.

I’ve also made a Leopard 2PSO thread if you’d like to discuss it further.

https://forum.warthunder.com/t/leopard-2pso/22416

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yeah, started writing there, we need to at least get the floating turret fixed, which makes a huge unnecesary weakspot

In game, brother.

All Germany tech player looks like jokers after this 3years waiting for top tier tank.

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hows the commander view?

It’s a spotter’s view

thats weird i think the commander should have access to thermals as well

We waited three years to get a 2a5 heavier, 12.7 with a 1 generation thermal imager. Other nations have at least one tank with a 2 generation thermal imager at the gunner. Now I am convinced that Gaijin hates Germany. We’ll wait for the next Leo 4 years minimum

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And to pour salt in the wound, we get to watch Italy take Germany’s most modern IFV with spike and hardkill APS which Germany still doesn’t have.

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I also offered this IFV to Germany in ru forum. But the news of its addition to the branch of Italy was like a knife in the heart.

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It’s a completely nonsensical way of achieving things, and I hope it stops. the SA tree is rather tragically dead (although I will probably grind the Rooikat MTTD with the new folders coming in the next patch) and there’s seemingly no remedy to this. The problem as far as i see is the “light/recon tanks” added just aren’t what we’re after. Rooikat for instance is a massive tank with a reasonably big 76mm Sabot wielding gun. where as, say, Scimitar, is a small vehicle, with a equally small 30mm “Auto” Cannon.
It’s just not suitable (at least, in RB or SB) for actual reconnaisance, where you sit down, report tank movements to your squad, spot, etc etc

Not to mention the lack of a tank killing IFV. Sure you can kill MBTs with the Warrior, but its extremely dangerous and not ideal at best. Something like the Warrior CSP with the 200rpm CTA 40mm gun or the Ajax would be cool.

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Sure, why not :)

Afaik the first tank to receive the ATTICA was the PSO-VT aka 2A7+ in the PERI RTWL. The 2A7 then got it in the PERI R17A3. Both still had the WBG-X for the gunner.

So, what about prototype Linx?


That haven’t APS, but it have spikes and may have mk-35 mm

And turret doesn’t have crew.
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thats the KF31 one, not the KF41

Unless there’s a big difference in penetration between 30mm and 35mm, I would rather take the APS than no APS, especially since vikhr spam is still a thing.

Also for hull-down, I guess it would be useful in some of maps. Then again, I’m not too sure sniping with a IFV is a great Idea. Especially if the enemy team also has spikes or equivelant.

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Better than again lose in vehicle.

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