@Smin1080p can we get some insight on why the devs want to nerf the Bagel despite the overwhelming evidence that it it shouldn’t
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No need to ask smin, the devs feel like the German players have been too complacent with the bagel being in a good place and have brought out the nerf sledgehammer again
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Wait WHAT
Hell no, they denied manufacturer stuff so often in the past
Real 2A7 vs Gaijin’s 2A7… and Vladuxa kept telling us the turret’s at a correct height, but the real 2A7s turret ring isn’t visible at all, lol.
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clearly this is a fake pictue /s
everyone knows leopards have floating turrets /s
Not in the slightest your big target, easy to spot, your missiles are complete garbage thanks to Gaijin, you can’t pen anything frontaly not to mention that the gun is extremely inaccurate, you have speed well good luck every thing is as fast as you if even faster and now where are about to lose more speed and acceleration
bruh the bagel is one of the best vehicles for its be in the game you just have massive skill issue
I thought I was reading a 2S38 rant, but then I remembered the 2S38 doesn’t have missiles and we’re in Germany’s topic.
I aced that thing and no it’s not the best the only thing that you are really good at is being a good SPAA bc of the HE-VT, mobility wise it’s not something special, gun good luck doing anything with it plus at open maps your most certainly doomed, ATGMs the Shturm-S have better ones at 8.7 plus you have to expose your self to fire them, armour well i don’t think we have this, lrf well everyone have theis, thermals same everyone have this, stab same everyone have this so in what exactly the begleitpanzer consider the best tank
the begleit panzer its really good just requires skill but if you remove the only thing it has going for as its main weapon, its mobility, its just kind of gonna get crippled specially with the fact that it already struggles to accelerate now its gonna be worse to get out of bad situations
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Na it’s not a skill matter the begleitpanzer is lacking even a blind man can see this compared to what it faces 85% of the time the begleitpanzer can do nothing, here is the fact about tanks engagements who fire first win the begleitpanzer can’t do that the gun can’t pen anything except for light tanks and ofc you can’t fire the TOWs on the moves so literally anything that shoots you will kill you
I mean have any one stoped for a moment and start thinking that we have a tank with zero capabilities of killing anything frontaly with its gun (except for light tanks), it have atgms that got it’s flying performance nerfed by the new updates and can’t fire them without exposing the whole tank, it have mobility that’s just above average and every other light tank and even some mbts at the same br have the same mobility if not even better, it’s missing alot of things and about to get nerfed may not after all be a good tank
The gun is also way less accurate than the Russian 57mm
Idk man, i love my bagel, besides i just knock out the barrel and then watch for anyone else then take them out with the missile or take them out with the gun. Sure the pen isnt great but it has a ton of ammo to use and a good fire rate. Better than the cv9030 at the same br lol. Tho when can we get apfsds and laser warning for bagel gaijin pls.
Because everyone knows russian guns are known for being accurate /s
I remember times when the tiger 2h had the accuracy of some 1800 ship canon
Meanwhile kv2 was pin point accurate
most russian guns overperform in the accuracy department…
But don’t tell gaijin lol
i mean another example is the bmp2 30mm compared to puma 30mm xD
clearly community feels offended if the ru boys dont like it
thanks for flagging :)
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I still love (absolutely loathe) the fact that the BMP-2M’s main gun, literally designed to be inaccurate, with a dispersion between 2-4 mils irl is VASTLY more accurate than something like the Puma’s main gun which has a dispersion of 0.3 mils irl.
The Puma is literally stated as being 10x more accurate irl than the BMP-2M, but somehow gaijin has it backwards and wont fix it…
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russia not 70% winrate ?
Can’t happening comrade
Let’s buff them xaxaxaxa
I always wonder what kind of cheap vodka they have to drink to change something where they got a picture proving its 100mm+ changing it to 50
you made the picture and posted it here or not ?
Ah yes flagging again
Razer is it you again ? :))
Posted two pictures, a pixel measurement & a tape measurement. Both showing 110mm for the outer skirt… but well.
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1080523666867109899/1216840294411010058/image.png?ex=6601d9d5&is=65ef64d5&hm=17fd5cceea5f9c3bf9e0791dd950e0356d846038162545e6725631a824f610f5&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=762&height=184
but this picture it made me laugh so hard
with the air layer getting a ce modifier of 1.5
and the KE modifier
- getting spalling disabled because #russiasuffers
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