So in summary according to what we have we even get
A. Gaijin Begleitpanzer 57:
600 hp engine.
Marder transmission.
No other changes.
B. Begleitpanzer 57 that we want:
720 hp updated TAM engine.
TAM transmission since the begleitpanzer was built on TAM chassis.
APFSDS.
heli warning system.
The correct top speed of 78 kh/h.
Weight of 28.5 tons.
HOT missiles.
And what do we get ?
right a even more bullshit version with 1.5tn extra weight that won’t probably reduced but reduce the hp from the engine…
Meanwhile 2s38 is allowed to keep its fantasy he-vt round it never had lmao
Unfortunately that what we will get
Soon you will also get a Leopard 2A6 armour nerf :)))
If you know, you know.
wait wut ? :O
there isn’t much left for them soon to nerf…
Well good thing is if i play i play my vidar to grind the swe tree
they got the better leopards anyways
What’s the deal with that?
TLDR its a timed fuze IRL like AHEAD should be
Unnamed country apparently captured a 2A6 in an unnamed conflict, and since you know how they weaponise propaganda - expect them to say armour’s bad and Gaijin will just ignore all Western sources, and nerf it to the ground :)
I meant as in what is wrong with 2S38 having it?
Is it a fictional shell or not compatible with cannon or smn?
its not a real He-vt like bagel or other cannons
it works more like ahead its programmed by a laser
but you can read more about it here
ah yes the country that also claimed it destroyed 25 Bradley’s before they even reached the not to name conflict ?
My mistake then
Everyone knows the german leopards run on hope and dreams
Stop flagging everything just because you don’t like what you read
Honestly such a childsplay
Mmmmm, so you want a 10.3/10.7 Begleitpanzer? I won’t oppose.
Not sure why Murica mentioned an aspect about 2S38 that doesn’t impact its BR at all.
Why not good speed, APFSDS that can kill barrels and tracks easily, warning against cancer helicopters and missiles with over 900mm of pen
Aha, I see now.
Thank you!
As David Bowie said that Begleit could not use a TAM engine because it uses a Marder gearbox, I would like to make one last clarification on this topic, carried out in a totally capricious manner by gaijin.
The engine of the Marder and the TAM are practically the same.
The Ka-500 has an intercooler and slightly less compression, 2200 vs 2400 max rpm, maximum torque at 1600 vs 1900 rpm.
Begleit could easily have the TAM engine and the Marder gearbox. The source Gaijin provides for the nerf is anachronistic from other sources and the mods’ arguments are ridiculous.
seriously gaijin really depends on artificially nerfing germany just so other nation mains dont cry that germany its too op im so done about that
It isn’t artificial though? It’s the manufacturer’s document; a primary source.
It’s a document you clearly disagree with at this time, not artificial though.
didnt you read dude, the issue was caused because of a missread, they didnt read correctly that the engine that was supossed to be equipped was on a marder hull and instead the TAM hull with the new engine was used for the begleit
They know its a TAM hull, but for some reason they think it was a prototype TAM with a 600 HP engine, the only source of which even existing is Janes.
And btw, the 28.5 tons are just as doubtful as the 600 HP, after all even the base A1 marder is over 29 tons, so I cant see how adding a LARGER weapon system decreases weight.
