Just found this bug report about the engine and transmission
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/qJzrK2zXqxYO
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IDK, people haven’t complained about 2S38’s mobility.
A 600HP 28.5 ton Begleit won’t be the slowest thing at the BR, it’ll be quite average for what’s there and even at 10.0; that is if it’s correct, which a number of people here are thinking it’s likely correct.
The War Thunder wiki will need to be updated if DF105 and Begleit use different power packs.
This thing is completely broken and out of the question, plus it is such a new vehicle that probably not even the Russian army knows its real specifications.
Why do you suppose that Begleit will weigh 28.5 tons? Was there a new data mine?
I cited the thunder wiki because I didn’t have the game client on hand at the time. Now, with the client open I can confirm that what the wiki says is what is currently in the game.
Maybe you don’t get the point or didn’t follow the thread from the beginning. The problem is not exactly DF105.
The problem is that the vast majority of the gearboxes in the game are fictitious and Gaijin’s argument is that Begleit could not have its 720hp engine since it is not compatible with the Marder’s gearbox (when not even the Marder uses its real gearbox in the game lol)
So in summary according to what we have we even get
A. Gaijin Begleitpanzer 57:
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600 hp engine.
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Marder transmission.
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No other changes.
B. Begleitpanzer 57 that we want:
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720 hp updated TAM engine.
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TAM transmission since the begleitpanzer was built on TAM chassis.
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APFSDS.
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heli warning system.
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The correct top speed of 78 kh/h.
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Weight of 28.5 tons.
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HOT missiles.
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And what do we get ?
right a even more bullshit version with 1.5tn extra weight that won’t probably reduced but reduce the hp from the engine…
Meanwhile 2s38 is allowed to keep its fantasy he-vt round it never had lmao
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Unfortunately that what we will get
Soon you will also get a Leopard 2A6 armour nerf :)))
If you know, you know.
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wait wut ? :O
there isn’t much left for them soon to nerf…
Well good thing is if i play i play my vidar to grind the swe tree
they got the better leopards anyways
:sad:
What’s the deal with that?
TLDR its a timed fuze IRL like AHEAD should be
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Unnamed country apparently captured a 2A6 in an unnamed conflict, and since you know how they weaponise propaganda - expect them to say armour’s bad and Gaijin will just ignore all Western sources, and nerf it to the ground :)
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I meant as in what is wrong with 2S38 having it?
Is it a fictional shell or not compatible with cannon or smn?
its not a real He-vt like bagel or other cannons
it works more like ahead its programmed by a laser
but you can read more about it here
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ah yes the country that also claimed it destroyed 25 Bradley’s before they even reached the not to name conflict ?
My mistake then
Everyone knows the german leopards run on hope and dreams
Stop flagging everything just because you don’t like what you read
Honestly such a childsplay
Mmmmm, so you want a 10.3/10.7 Begleitpanzer? I won’t oppose.
Not sure why Murica mentioned an aspect about 2S38 that doesn’t impact its BR at all.
Why not good speed, APFSDS that can kill barrels and tracks easily, warning against cancer helicopters and missiles with over 900mm of pen
Aha, I see now.
Thank you!
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As David Bowie said that Begleit could not use a TAM engine because it uses a Marder gearbox, I would like to make one last clarification on this topic, carried out in a totally capricious manner by gaijin.
The engine of the Marder and the TAM are practically the same.
The Ka-500 has an intercooler and slightly less compression, 2200 vs 2400 max rpm, maximum torque at 1600 vs 1900 rpm.
With this data it can be concluded that the block, crankshaft, pistons, cylinders and connecting rods are the same. They only change the cylinder heads, as they have different compressions, they lower the compression and increase the power.
You get that 20% more power with the 2 intercoolers, one in each turbo per manifold.
Both the marder and the TAM have engines with two turbos per engine. Do not confuse that it has two turbos with a biturbo engine.
Begleit could easily have the TAM engine and the Marder gearbox. The source Gaijin provides for the nerf is anachronistic from other sources and the mods’ arguments are ridiculous.
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seriously gaijin really depends on artificially nerfing germany just so other nation mains dont cry that germany its too op im so done about that
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