its more like this specific part, the lower part its present on the newer photos
isn’t that some sort of sheath that goes over that portion of the cannon?
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Even the part under it looks way bigger than in other pictures
Don’t think so more as if the part get wrapped with metal covering
if you notice its not really much bigger, it looks more like a metal sheet covering the breach that’s it, if you watch closely is not longer either
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Makes more sense bc it really looks as if the whole gun got reinforced with a metal covering
I do hope you realize this picture is nothing but a scale model made by a hobbyist and not a actual historical picture of the Begleitpanzer lol 😅
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Ooooo no wonder the gun looked weird
Oh well shit, i used that picture in my HWS report 😅
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Not if this is saying “this currently has a 600hp engine and we will install the helicopter sensor later” Did is say the 600hp engine as a future addition anywhere?
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Yeah I’m inclined to agree there is enonugh support on the 720hp, even if maybe the specific vevrsion gajin wasn’t to represtend might have had a 600, certainly it seems pretty clear a 720hp engine was fitted at some point
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Begleit with this change will now be as fast as 2S38.
Both taking ~15 seconds to hit 50kph non-crewed.
A 3 second hit from the ~12 seconds Begleit is currently with the 720hp engine.
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That magazine is from 1975, they are just plans. They had planned the marder motor and had plans in the future to add a sensor. It doesn’t matter, because the project is in its conceptual phase. Newer sources were provided but they are Jane’s… The thing is, the sources provided by Gaijin are equally unbelievable.
Moral: When Gaijin wants to nerf something, he uses the narrative that suits him. The historical value of the sources does not matter.
Gaijin has known for months and years about these Begleit sources. There are already previous reports and they already knew it, however now they need the nerf, probably to bring it down to 9.0 in the next revision.
How do you know it’s an intentional nerf? when they remove the engine, but its mass is still 30tn and its maximum speed is still limited to 70km/h. The same magazine that says that Begleit has the Marder engine/transmission (in fact it does not specify that it is from the Marder, only the engine power is revealed) also says that Begleit has 28.5tn and a maximum speed of 78km/h. The latter has not yet been corrected (as far as I know).
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And it’s likely they won’t change that at all. Professional cherry pickers, right here.
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According to wiki thunder:
DF105 uses the same engine and transmission as Begleit (720hp with 7 forward gears and 4 reverse gears).
Marder A1 uses an 8 forward/reverse gear transmission.
Nerf also to DF105? since according to Gaijin the Marder transmission is not compatible with the TAM engine.
Nerf the Marder? because wiki says 8 forward/reverse gears and the official Renk site says 4 forward/reverse gears.
What transmission has 7 forward and 4 reverse gears?
I assure you that if I continue to pull the thread, we discover that much of the game is riddled with inaccuracies and most of them, in my opinion, are international snail errors in balancing vehicles. When the nerf can be controversial, “sources” magically appear, in this case an advertising brochure for the Begleit concept, in 1975.
Meanwhile you have a Japanese F-16AJ and worse things.
Begleit with 600hp and 30tn will have even less mobility than the Marder A1… with what need? Isn’t it easier for them to stop treating us like idiots and leave our vehicles alone? every s*it modification like this ruins our lineups.
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Just found this bug report about the engine and transmission
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/qJzrK2zXqxYO
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IDK, people haven’t complained about 2S38’s mobility.
A 600HP 28.5 ton Begleit won’t be the slowest thing at the BR, it’ll be quite average for what’s there and even at 10.0; that is if it’s correct, which a number of people here are thinking it’s likely correct.
The War Thunder wiki will need to be updated if DF105 and Begleit use different power packs.
This thing is completely broken and out of the question, plus it is such a new vehicle that probably not even the Russian army knows its real specifications.
Why do you suppose that Begleit will weigh 28.5 tons? Was there a new data mine?
I cited the thunder wiki because I didn’t have the game client on hand at the time. Now, with the client open I can confirm that what the wiki says is what is currently in the game.
Maybe you don’t get the point or didn’t follow the thread from the beginning. The problem is not exactly DF105.
The problem is that the vast majority of the gearboxes in the game are fictitious and Gaijin’s argument is that Begleit could not have its 720hp engine since it is not compatible with the Marder’s gearbox (when not even the Marder uses its real gearbox in the game lol)