Not just armor, acceleration also needs to be fixed.
Current 2A7V is accelerates slower then Strv122 and has less top speed even tho 2A7’s acceleration suppose to be on 2A4’s level because of different gearbox.
But Gaijin thinks its not possible.
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acceleration its another theme gaijin keeps saying that we need to show them the gear ratios to demonstrate the 2A7V can accelerate as fast as the 2A4 but we cant find them, just watch this
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/r35mfe8Yk50J
Cause its a classified information, just like other Nato things.
Gaijin knows this and using their benefits to keep Nato vehicles crippled.
If 2A7V wasn’t the 3rd most armored tank in WT currently, I’d be more passionate about wanting it fixed as soon as possible.
Of course it should be fixed. I’m just not as upset as others clearly are.
The annoying thing about the whole “need gear ratio” argument they use is that they know the 2A4’s acceleration, and they know the change in mass between the 2 tanks. They should be able to roughly determine the gear ratio mathematically, they just choose not to…
cuz they are lazy as heck
They story off almost anything top tier sadly
Yea, sadly…
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Maybe you didn’t understand. It doesn’t matter if it was installed later because Gaijin is nerfing a tank, based on a propaganda brochure from 1975 when the vehicle was still an early concept. Following that criterion, the helicopter detection sensor should also be on the vehicle. The same brochure says that the tank could go 78km/h and weighed 28.5 tons, but they DO NOT give us that.
Source management is BS.
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Hmmm? Its mass is going to 28.5 tons, and its top speed is currently up’d to 75 fwd & rvs.
and it wouldnt make sense that the topspeed of the begleit magically fits the one of the TAM its obvious it uses the hull of the TAM and the newest engine and transmission for the TAM wich means the 720 HP should be correct
Yes. It is obvious that begleit uses the MTU MB833 Ka500 engine. Sugar already showed updated sources of this and I am completely sure that there was no TAM stage 1 prototype with a marder engine, as Bowie mentions.
there isnt TAM stage 1 prototype cuz it was discarded due to the need of a stronger hull with a stronger engine and transmission to carry the vehicle and be able to handle the heavier traindrive and a 105 mm
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I’m not sure if I understood. Currently Begleit has 30tn in the game.
They are nerfing his engine according to a source from 1975. That same source also says that his weight is 28.5tn and his maximum speed is 78km. However, its mass is still 30tn and its maximum speed is 70km/h.
Furthermore, sugar already presented updated evidence about Begleit and they completely ignored it.
You don’t have to be Einstein to realize that they want to nerf the vehicle (the sources, as they use them, are just a screen to legitimize their actions).
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okay so we lose 120 hp but still retain the 1.5tn extra weight ?
this sounds like gaijin xD
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Sounds kinda like Leopard 2A7V transmission change 2: Electric Boogaloo
Gaijin: “We nerfed this feature because this document states it was lowered to increase another feature”
Us: “Oh, so you’re gonna buff another feature to account for it and make it accurate to irl? Thats ok :)”
Gaijin:
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yeah its ridiculous even in the same source it states that the 600HP was meant for the first stage prototype build on the hull of a Marder ifv but the strain was gonna be too much so they opted for a new design with a new traindrive that could withstand a 105, after the design was done the increase in weight made it use the new 720 HP engine wich had a top speed of 78 km/H this design was used for the Begleit cuz the Marder hull couldnt withstand a 57 mm autocannon, there wasnt such thing as a stage 1 TAM cuz it never existed the proto was to be build on a marder hull but due to limitations it was build in the latest stage of the TAM wich had the 720 hp engine
We should get the extra 3 crew members too we should get the same treatment of the BTR-ZD
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the extra ones are the bow gunners and the comander… not infantry.