Obvios nerf for leo 2a5 and 6 incomming, cant let germany have something thats as good as swedens mbt
I dont think a nerf, if I understand this correctly it will fix the armor holes
but its funny to me that they really are trying to tell us that sweden can built better armor then germany XD
they wont admit they are lazy and they dont wanna just copy and paste the 2A6 turret into the 2A7V
Yeah, it seems to me that they didnt even read anything that was provided, if they wouldve they would know how the 2A7Vs protection looks like but saying “there is no indication the armor was ever improved” or “it aligns with the sweden tender” is just lazy, just like with the Abrams
its obvious they didnt read it by the simple fact that they didnt even state even a single bit of info regarding the post most likely making up stuff based on their own “studies” from an inform made over 20 years ago, and the same went for the abrams their “study” they didnt read anything on the abrams post and they obviously wont do it on the 2a7v either
The way Gaijin treats bug reports honestly feels superficial, like they just use it to make it look like they take community advice seriously.
its because they do it like that, they really do not care unless it has to be with buffing a russian tank
dose anybody have full configuration data about '94 sweden mbt contest?
Quite honestly that “discussion”-article is downright insulting.
Not only makes basing the A7Vs armor on a 30-year old, pre-A5 Prototype absolutely no sense whatsoever, according to Gaijin Sweden also just developed composite-inserts that are better AND lighter than the german ones 30 years ago, and despite decades of close continued miltary cooperation Germany never got access to those and instead developed a version that performs worse while being heavier?
Their entire “Argument” doesnt even make sense considering the external armor is also worse on the A7V, despite MEXAS-H literally being developed by a German Company.
Are we supposed to assume Rheinmetall just sells Germany a worse version than Sweden for no reason or what??
it would be better than the CV90, and we cant have a German vehicle thats better than its Swedish counterpart
Leo 2A7V is now the new Leopard 2 PSO
That was to be expected. Now we wait for a community manager to say “don’t worry guys! a better german leopard is coming in 2024!” and then a gimped leo is added 2 weeks before the end of the year, and sweden gets a new best Leo. Rinse and repeat
At some point i provided evidence that all German bombs at some point was filled with Trialen 105 and send it as a bug report.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/rKy9tyRE481C
The problem is even if we give the the information they need on plate of gold they will just use a cheap excuse to ignore us and not implement what the community suggests.
They don’t care about what was implemented in real life and how it was used they only care about what things they see practical from their pov and nothing else.
Sorry about that report man. WT has got to be on a very short list of games where players actually put in more work and have more passion for the project than the dev team.
Thx man it’s sad how the effort was kinda wasted but what really pissed me of that after 5 months of waiting it took them on day to say no, but ngl it was actually a good try i kinda understand the dev on this one bc if the bombs filling were to be switched to Trialen 105 all bombs will receive a 60% buff to their explosion power SC50 will have a TNT equivalent of 40kg instead of 25kg and it will have armoured distraction radius of 4m instead of 2m so it’s kinda of huge buff that will make german bombs busted.
But i didn’t give up all hope i still have some in this report that may make german bombers experience a bit more existing
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/18jyQu7rIh0r
…a loooooong time ago
imagine driving all over germany, austria, sweden, switzerland, Netherlands, etc to archives and museums, invest time and money and then getting cucked… i would quit too, ngl. you?
So we gave up?
Problem is that GJ simply implements always the worst version of anything german or finds “historical accuracies” to nerf german vehicles into the ground/make the unplayable. Best example is the nerf of all the german AA pen by 30-40% yet non of the funny formular gets implemented on allied AA´s. Let alone aircraft cannons, all cannons got massively increased in terms of pen while german cannons were nerfed or stayed lame.
Thanks to the hate of the community it will stay that way as its easier to make one nation unplayable than balancing two cash cow nations. There are far too many prime examples on the old forum of this fact its not even funny anymore. Alternatively look at naval there are all faults and imbalances of GF under a giant magnifying glass. Best Coastal = Russian, best Frigate = Russian, best Destroyer = US, Best capital ships = Russian and US in post war/fantasy configuration.
@GHOST_KING5710 Tbh it wouldnt brake the game considering that American and Russian bombs of the same weight are far more lethal, heck I bombed a chasing Yak-3U yesterday with a 1000kg bomb and that guy flew of without any serious damage…
No giving up is no longer an option we just need a different approach to the current problems and the problems that we may face in the future as german TT players
Here are the options:
1- Find sources to fit in the ruleset.
2- Make a suggestion on the forums to change the ruleset.
3- Provide feedback via the new 2024 roadmap feedback form to reconsider the rules around armor & instead make all tanks at top BR closer in parity closer to their weight class.
Any and all of these are solutions.
And they’re especially attractive over toxic ideas.