Well thats something. OFC Russia suffers currently in the top bracket because the USA finally got their realistic targeting equipment. But damn…lol
What is this topic lmfao
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Perhaps. At least some of it
Should’ve put a note there, since the only exception to this is the R-27ER.
In terms of SARH missiles, the USSR lacks range until they get the R-27ER (which is like top tier, when SARH missiles are even in 9.3)
The first SARH missile the USSR gets is an AIM-9B with a radar seeker,worse in some occasions than the AIM-7C.
Then the AIM-7D appears,that’s where the difference starts. At the BR of the F-4C, the best SARH the USSR gets is still the R-3R
The AIM-7E-2 (i’ve skipped the normal E because it’s ALMOST the same) outperforms the SARH version of the R-23 by every metric (they’re both in 11.3)
AIM-7F is a 0.3 difference between the R-24R, but still means they meet each other frequently. The R-24R is now at the same level as the AIM-7E-2, but the AIM-7F by this point also outperforms both.
Then the R-27ER appears, which outperforms the AIM-7M at its BR due to the speed, range and tech differences.
AIM-7C – R-3R
AIM-7D > R-3R
AIM-7E-2 > R-23R
AIM-7F > R-24R
AIM-7M < R-27ER
He’s right.
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Thanks, to be honest, I would have liked to, but on the one hand I was lazy and didn’t want to type more, on the other hand, I always wanted to be as accurate as possible when I wrote about the addition of certain vehicles or ammo to the game, so as not to get caught in the subsequent debate with others. Thank you again for your supplement
mig-23s get all aspect IRs, both R-60s AND R-24Ts.
mig23s with all aspect IRs during the lawnmover meta > AIM-7F > R-24R
especially R-24Ts, paired with IRST, allow mig23s to do some g o o f y tactics.
“russia bad r60 to strong gaijin hates the us”
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R-24R only lacks range. Besides that it has insane acceleration paired with great maneuverability (which make it better at close range missile jousting than the 7F) and it has a CW seeker making it chaff resistant. It’s definitely better than the E2 but also not on the 7F’s level.
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At one point a lot of people actually said this. R-60 was king for a while when flares were yet to be introduced.
As was SRAAM… I miss those days
I’m pretty sure flares existed when SRAAMs were added and way later than the R-60. SRAAMs were still really good back then because it only fought Sabres and such without flares.
It was a while ago, I just remember the Hunter and Harrier being actually kinda decent, but these days they really aren’t
They did, but the first Harrier introduced with SRAAMs (a premium) was heavily under br’ed. I think it went up two steps for it’s first adjustment and ended up a full 1.0 above it’s introduction if I remember right. So it was going against planes with no flares, which was the problem. Very broken on release but once it had a more fitting BR SRAMMs pretty much got shifted to “gimmick weapon”.
I remember grinding the German tech tree at the time and was at the CL-13B. The Harriers were a nightmare to fight especially since they had airspawn back then.
No it wasn’t, that happened when the Aim-7 was introduced.
No my friend, that’s because of no skill players that can’t avoid fox 3s.
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Irrc the r60 was added heavely nerfed before of flares were introduced and pulled just 18g, and then update right after that they added the f4e with flares and aim 9j, the ussr got flares 3 updates later, when the mig 21bis was added, which btw only got flares after a bug report, as they first stated that it didnt had flares
The F-4E didn’t come with flares. I believe it was when the Mirage III was introduced when they added countermeasures which were still only chaff and not flares.
It had flares.
Btw flares were added much sooner than chaffs, like a years earlier, chaff where added in ixwa strike.