Let's talk about the discrimination and institutional inadequacy of the Soviet Air Force from the fox1, fox2 era to the fox3 era today

Yeah, that’s the narrative they invented.
Germany good? It’s the vehicles.
Germany bad? It’s the players.

It’s pretty blatant how good US air is and has been.

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So does France,Japan and Sweden.

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Occasionally they can get a good plane, but it’s not in the same ballpark as US.

It’s easy-ish to flare, assuming you know it’s been fired at you. That’s a bigger strength of the 9M than any IRCCM in game.

The R73 is still far easier to flare.

Japan got the same F-15 which is the best plane of this patch.

France recieved MICA missiles and MAW system,now they carry the same amount of missiles F-15 can while having more awareness.

Sweden recieved JAS39 with Aim-120 and better CAS capabilites which made them even stronger.

It seems like Usa shares 1st place with many countries actually.

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That doesn’t mean they are good across the board like the US is, and the latter always has had a competitive plane.

What does Germany have currently?

Should i feel sorry for Germany just because they didnt used anything other then Phantoms and Mig-29’s until EFT arrived?

Nah, not really.

They will most likely recieve Swiss F-18 with next uptade, until then they have to endure little bit more.

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Oh right, because game balance should be decided by real world circumstances.
Bet you’ll support historical MM for ground forces as well then, we shouldn’t feel sorry for a bunch of Shermans fighting against Tigers and Panthers.

Should i feel bad just because one nation suffers while other one’s has vehicles that has similiar capabilities?

Germany didnt had any option rather than Swiss F-18 and it was clear as a day that they were not going to recieve this uptade, meanwhile all other nations recieved capable vehicles.

When Germany recieved better Mig-29 no one was batting eye or same deal with fictional F-16AJ, but when i say they have to endure temporal suffer i suddenly become villain.

Safe to say this “calling justice” propaganda is pointless because this situation is nothing new.

Already making empty claims about me i see, shame…

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Germany didnt had any option rather than Swiss F-18 and it was clear as a day that they were not going to recieve this uptade, meanwhile all other nations recieved capable vehicles.

Okay, and Germany did not receive a capable vehicle, that’s a problem.

Already making empty claims about me i see, shame…

How is it an empty claim when you literally stated you have no problem with a nation suffering based on real world circumstances?

im laughing so hard at this guys posts.

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stop flying in a straight line.

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That’s the narrative they invented, yet seemingly by your response, hook, Line and sinker you feel and say the same? Multiple nations have the exact same planes the U.S. does. I don’t see anyone screeching about Japan. So Japan obviously it must be the players, but US it’s just the planes?

Seems a bit funny no one was screeching about helping the French or Italy when Sweden and Germany got the utterly dominant tanks for top tier with no equal for a mile upon the last release. However, it’s a problem when Germany doesn’t get the most competitive option for top tier. You’re essentially an Ariete right now in top tier. If it wasn’t a problem for everyone in GRB I don’t see why it’s now a problem in ARB.

I would like the BS to stop, and all options be competitive for nations, but i can’t say it doesn’t feel good since I mostly play GRB to watch Germany suffer a bit lol. I just wish Sweden was there in the same place with you, but of course they don’t get the same treatment as Germany.

Well, I have to agree with you that not adding the Mig-25 and Mig-31 as BVR rivals to the F-14 is a bit of a bummer, as is not adding the other vehicles and ammunition you mentioned.

I almost always played as the USSR (and Germany, which is a copy and paste of the USSR in the higher tiers) and then I started playing with the French and Israel (which is a copy and paste of several Western nations).

I didn’t play with all the vehicles. To research the French tree I bought the Mirage F-1 and to research the Israeli tree I bought the Kfir Canard.

And honestly, it’s much easier to play with Soviet vehicles, whether with the USSR or Germany. Especially in the BVR Arena, IR missiles are generally bad for everyone before the top tier.

The MiG-23 has one of the best SARH missile/radar combinations in the game. I love the Mig23/R24 combination, it guarantees 2 kills per match.

Unlike playing with the Mirage F-1 and the trash Super 530D, 1 chaff 1 miss. Thank God it has 2 Magic-2s.

The R-27 simply dominated the skies, for a missile that, in real life, has never achieved a confirmed aerial victory.

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Yeah, it’s the players in both.
The fact people are dying to the AIM-9B of ARHs is hilarious.

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The japanese players don’t pretend that their imported American planes are bad. The Americans load up with 100000 pounds of bombs, fly straight into an R60M, and then cry about how they need F-22 and AIM-9X.

Oh I’m laughing. I’ve played both USA and USSR, and america is head over heels better in the BVR department. The only exception was when the 27ER was clearly the best SARH, but BVR was never meta during the 27ER’s “reign” due to the strong multipath environment that made it trivial to faceroll your way into the merge. The 27ER’s power was also tempered by the inadequate radar and RWR on russian planes, and the fact that the majority of planes that can carry it can only carry two.

Even just comparing the Mig-23ML and the F-4S, the F-4 is clearly better. I’ll take 5-6 sparrows over two 24Rs every day of the week. The sparrows are much better at long range with the 24R’s only having a slight edge within visual range in head to head jousts. The sparrows just shine even brighter y when backed up with pulse doppler radar instead of mti, and a head mounted display to assist with getting weapons on target. The phantom even has 750 rounds of cannon ammo with radar assisted gunsight vs the mig’s 250 rounds and mk1 eyeball.

It has been significantly easier grinding with the F-4S than it was with the Mig-23ML. Especially in downtiers where it is safer to climb and leverage USA’s superior BVR capabilities. The only reason it’s not safe in uptiers is because the F-14s and F-15s do BVR way better than the F-4.

I don’t see anyone screeching about Japan

Everyone was complaining about the T-2, and they still complain about the Zero to this day despite it being completely outclassed and overtiered.

Seems a bit funny no one was screeching about helping the French or Italy when Sweden and Germany got the utterly dominant tanks for top tier

US/Germany and Russia have always been the major nations, if you play the other nations you know you’re generally behind.

Germany gets dominant tanks for maybe a month before they get nerfed, the last time they got top tier vehicles was 2020 and then Sweden got better versions of it, and it wasn’t until recently that Germany finally got a new tank in the 2A7, but Germany still has no support vehicles or CAS and has been a worse version of Sweden for years

A month? You’re literally splitting hairs. Do you want a bit better brawling capabilities as frontal armor, or the ability to snipe long distance with thermals and darts. That’s the difference between GER and SWE at top tier.

As long as this game doesn’t have a TO mode, to me it seems balanced that the air gets more dominant with some nations than others. Since those planes will run CAP and CAS in GRB.

I have only been here for a year. I don’t understand the differences that happened in this game from past years.

I also don’t play anything other than high tier or top tier anymore, so that also limits my point of view lol. I’m not concerned with zeros and stuff, sorry.

The extra pen is pretty useless as far as I know, extra armor is far more valuable than the pen, as even on my Japanese tanks with 450mm of pen I can kill tanks in the same weakspots and more pen doesn’t open up more weakspots.

Why is it balanced that nations get stronger CAS than others?