HDN is head-on its only useful for targets above 800 m/s speed relative to you in a front aspect so its pretty much useless
It allows you to get a lock easier at long range targets from my experience. I have tons of clips to back it up.
Hate to be that guy but looking at your account you barely have any experience with the n001 radar which explains your exaggeration and misinformation.
Yeah i dont play it outside of customs anymore because of how bad it is for the BRs meta why would anyone want to play an aircraft in a meta focused solely around radars and radar missiles with a vastly worse radar and worse radar missiles while also lacking the flight performance to even engage in WVR fights (at least in the case of the Mig-29SMT and both Su-27) i mean just look at sim lmao redfor is pretty much dead nobody wants to play migs and sukhoi against eagles and vipers
R-27ER is great for BVR, and R-73 (somewhat) makes up for the lack of FM. Its not an F-15C but the Su-27/SM is still a good aircraft. I mean you wouldn’t know, you probably haven’t even spaded the Flanker. Also sim is a different environment and I acknowledge that red team is suffering bad there.
lol maybe when it was Mig-29 vs F16
The R73 is only good on the Mig-29G because it doesn’t shit 90% of its energy in half a turn causijg the missile to spin about violently even then it still has the second worse IRCCM just behind the R-27ET so its still quite flarable
Yeah i dont want to spade this garbage ive tested the difference between spaded FM and stock and its negligible its still going to kill all its energy in one turn while my F-15 can keep doing 1100kph the only advantage the Su-27 has over any other plane is in its AOA
Nah I use it against AMRAAMs
What? I mean the R-73’s gatewidth IRCCM works great close range especially in a dogfight.
All R-73s were actually tracking, just that the first 2 R-73s were fired too fast against a target with a fast closure rate + fired at a weird angle so they couldn’t pull.
The relock after its near a target is a gimmick that only works once against someone whos never seen it before all I’d have to do is fire an AMRAAM then multipath at high speed the ER would probably just fall behind anyway since it’d lose most of its turning capability by then, if i fire a second AMRAAM you’re dead
It works when the Target is in its FOV most of the time you can just shit out flares and by the time it turns around to face you its staring at flares instead
I mean you literally showed the issues here yourself the first two trashed themselves because of the weird way they launch in the first place the third one went for flares just as i had already said and the 4th one was lucky in that the guy didnt flare flower to obscure himself completely
Didnt realise the third was an R-77 why would you even fire that close
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What? You’re gonna fire an AMRAAM then provide no DL then immediately go to the ground to multipath?
I mean you can also flare the 9M by shitting our flares because its IRCCM is seeker shut off.
Because of my poor launch parameters I just explained why in the previous comment…
That’s an R-77, fired that close because it can pull hard but it went for chaff in the beginning before re-locking to the enemy so it couldn’t pull hard enough.
So many excuses to try and de-value the R-73 lol.
I should’ve mentioned the first one exists to force an RWR warning so you notch
Only works in front aspect reliably in side aspect its going to kill you and same for rear aspect unless you flare flower
Already said it was
Not an excuse, the guy didnt flare flower its the same situation as calling the Zero good because it can kill bad players that can only turnfight when it has a very obvious glaring counter
I hope you know that AMRAAMs don’t give an RWR unless you’re locking the target or the AMRAAM is going pitbull which is 20km from the target. If you don’t provide the AMRAAM with DL, it has to rely on IOG until it goes pitbull which means any slight change in direction would be good enough to defeat an AMRAAM if the mother radar doesn’t provide DL.
It works reliably in any aspect. As long as you flare enough to keep the seeker shut off and change direction so that IOG doesn’t kill you.
Yeah duh you seem to forget its going to take 5s or so to dive during that time im providing DL through a track and the AMRAAM is only going to take around 16-18s to travel 20km since it goes past mach 3 for a while that definelty means its going to pitbull on you
Mass flaring doesn’t work the seeker will stay on until it loses sight of the engine ive seen people try to do this in the F-15 shitting out like 80 flares in a few seconds and it just ignores it because the seeker still sees the engine as the hottest signature the only way you avoid a rear aspect lock reliably is flare flowering to obscure the engine, cutting AB and turning away just as the seeker gets within 1.8km or so
You dont even play top tier…
cant even keep the story consistent bro
What?
@BramborovySalat
Your post accuses Americans of being Russian mains… talk about xenophobia.
No one gaslit spanish avenger.
11.7 also isn’t a low BR… it’s the maximum BR.
Your post has exclusively lies in it which is sad.
The fact remains that praising T-80BVM is identical to praising M1A1 AIM.
Both are good in 11.7 lineups, but there are better options.
I 100% understand your viewpoint on stuff like that. Just please work on explaining it a bit better, so people don’t end up doing things like this, and bringing it to unrelated threads.
I’ve seen people accuse American mains of being biased against America because they think the Abrams is good atm. It makes no sense, because one person is saying that it is a very good tank, but somehow that’s anti-usa?
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I dont disagree the 9M is a good missile, I think that comes down to people not knowing how to counter its IRCCM. The R73 uses Gatewith IRCCM, same as the Magic 2 or R27T’s. It clamps the seeker down after launch, at longer ranges, if people cut their afterburner and flare properly it will decoy the missile. It also comes down to the R73 being slower in acceleration than the Magic or R27T’s meaning it closes the distance slower and gives the other plane more time to flare, that being said, under 2km its basically impossible to flare, and also the fact its a 40g thrust vectoring missile means it will always hit, theres no flaring or outpulling it.
Btw it has the same range as the 9L/M it just dosnt look like it because its slower off the rails.
Its not “far superior” the AIM-9M and AAM-3 are easy to flare if you know what your doing.
I think this comes from people not knowing how the IRCCM on these missiles work. Its not anything like any other missile. That dosnt make it better, it just makes it different
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As much as i think R-73s + HMD combo is nuts at close range lets be completly fair - R-73 due to its thrust vectoring it sometimes suffers from ye olde wobble of death, issue not found on non-thrust vectoring missiles.
Yes its a bug and yes it should be fixed but until it is fixed, its something that needs to be taken into account.
Interesting, US win rates great in the sky.
It’s all the planes bro.
U.S. win rates shit in GRB.
It’s all the players bro.
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