Let's talk about the discrimination and institutional inadequacy of the Soviet Air Force from the fox1, fox2 era to the fox3 era today

They did, but the first Harrier introduced with SRAAMs (a premium) was heavily under br’ed. I think it went up two steps for it’s first adjustment and ended up a full 1.0 above it’s introduction if I remember right. So it was going against planes with no flares, which was the problem. Very broken on release but once it had a more fitting BR SRAMMs pretty much got shifted to “gimmick weapon”.

I remember grinding the German tech tree at the time and was at the CL-13B. The Harriers were a nightmare to fight especially since they had airspawn back then.

No it wasn’t, that happened when the Aim-7 was introduced.

No my friend, that’s because of no skill players that can’t avoid fox 3s.

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Irrc the r60 was added heavely nerfed before of flares were introduced and pulled just 18g, and then update right after that they added the f4e with flares and aim 9j, the ussr got flares 3 updates later, when the mig 21bis was added, which btw only got flares after a bug report, as they first stated that it didnt had flares

The F-4E didn’t come with flares. I believe it was when the Mirage III was introduced when they added countermeasures which were still only chaff and not flares.

It had flares.

Btw flares were added much sooner than chaffs, like a years earlier, chaff where added in ixwa strike.

Ah I got my timeline wrong

MiG-21bis was a funny era. IIRC it had the interceptor afterburner when it first came out.

The mig-21s still have an over performing AB. They still use the emergency engine power figures and not the standard AB figures. (Confirmed by the Devs during conversation about the tornado getting it’s emergency engine power settings)

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/VJATxelvq4ln

Would be interesting if they also give the Su-33 takeoff AB setting when it comes out, could probably offset the massive increase in weight and make it more competitive compared to the Su-27.

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Oh right, it’s never the vehicle of course.

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The fakour-90 outperforms everything else by so much its not even funny I’d be suprised if the iranian tomcat isnt going to be 13.0

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Its pretty funny throwing R.511 at people

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Maybe. Aside from the F90s it’ll suffer at 13.0.

I mean toptier is mostly just throwing missiles at BVR currently and if the sea harrier is doing fine even well at its br then so will a tomcat

Its pretty fun to fly up throw 8 AMRAAMS and get 3 kills

We’ll see how it performs, it can hardly pull 10Gs at low altitude so it might be pretty easy to defeat.

OP just said they wanted more obscure and not overpowered russian missiles/jets and ppl started crying? Typical forum tbh

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American mains are already asking for air launched SM-6 and F-22.

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funny that you think that. in-game the R-27 is the single most overperforming missile in the game.

According to official records, it only has scored 3 kills and 5 hits in its entire lifetime, and 2 of those were russian on russian MiG-29s in Africa, and the last confirmed R-27 kill was by Ukraine on a russian plane back when the invasion started in 2014.