All aircraft in War Thunder share the same damage model methodology, not just Soviets.
Tu-2? B-25 did the same thing.
Sloped armor on Soviet tanks are currently accurate. The flat protection of some tanks, Ariete included, is over-performing, but that’s a flaw of the APFSDS code.
7.1 seconds is slower than the quoted 6.x seconds.
HE shells are in-line with 120 - 125 HE shells of all tech trees.
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Yeah, I know it’s HESH, still fills the role.
ERA performance is based on NATO documentation; so if you have an issue with it, prove NATO wrong.
Volumetric armor is on tanks in all tech trees.
T-series tanks were nerfed this week.
3BM60 is the “3rd worst” top round.
Their 8.7 tanks fire the worst APFSDS round at the BR.
HVAP was buffed in 2018, and buffed again in 2023. I should know having exclusively used it on T26E5, and Pershings from late 2019 onward.
These correct things about their vehicles shouldn’t be changed IMO; this is just a refutation of the claims presented in your post.
Oh, and to set the record straight: I acknowledge ALL experiences from everyone, regardless of how different to mine they are.
You found something I didn’t come across when playing, and that’s interesting.
You act like it was only Russian tanks affected by hvap being very good. Wasn’t it mostly German tanks that used it, so needing it would benefit American tanks too?
Reload times are always used for balance. It isn’t just Russia that benefits from that. And do you have evidence of them over performing compared to irl?
I created a list of vehicles that could make up a line of interceptors, obvious issues with this (already 5 lines of aircraft) but I was bored when I did it.
I want to create a U.S. model.
Dedicated Interceptor line
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BR’s may be off, did this in a span of about 10 minutes.
MiG-19SU (9.3)
Su-9 (9.3-9.7)
I-75 (10.0)
Su-11 (10.0)
Yak-28P (10.0/10.3)
Su-15T (10.3)
Su-15TM (10.7)
Tu-28 (10.3/10.7)
Ye-150 (10.7) (Premium/event)
Ye-152 (10.7)
MiG-25P (10.7)
MiG-25PD (11.0) (Premium)
Mohammed Rayyan’s MiG-25 (11.0) (Event)
Iraqi MiG-25s could supposedly mount gunpods, can’t confirm this though.
Also coincidentally, I started getting called a gaslighter for saying that @uuzsodana 's original post was wrong…
Really says a lot about accusers when they attack those that state basic facts about how the Soviets are doing fine.
Fox 3s have for the first time in about 2 years, leveled the playing field between Soviets and everyone else. Mig-23 was meta, then Mig-29. R-27ER has been one of the most OP missiles ever added to the game.
Now I dont expect it to last much more than an update or 2. But im personally enjoying not being steam rolled by any and all soviet aircraft I encounter as i was forced to play at a massive disadvantage normally
As much as I am loathed to admit it. This is probably the first time in the last 2 or 3 years where the Soviets havent been absolute meta.
R-77 has its strengths for sure, but used right, both MICA and Aim-120 will win most of the time. Most Soviet aircraft have bad RWRs, and far more limited CMs, even when not considering BOL (even though BOL is stupidly nerfed)
In a dogfight the Su-27 certainly isnt DOA, but vs the F-16 or Gripen it certainly doesnt steam roll either.
So there is a bit of validity to the soviet moaning… That being said. I dont think they all that under-powered currently either and the complaining is from the fact that they arent absolutely dominating with ease (like they did previously with things like the Mig-23 or Mig-29)
Little bit of an understatement lmao, the R-27ER has, until Seek and destroy been the single most META defining weapon in ARB, it completely dominated every BVR equivalent from the second it was added and continues to outrange and outspeed everything to this day.
Russia has never truly lacked behind the counterparts, in fact they are often artificially buffed to compensate for their lacking technology, you can’t sit and forget a year of ER dominance the second the R-77 turns out to be exactly as everyone expected, a mediocre missile.
The R-27 is one missile. you could always counter it by notching going cold or multipathing the game was far more balanced before the introduction of ARH and the multipath change, the soviets had a single better missile while everyone else had vastly superior airframes, vastly superior radars and countermeasures, now the red side just doesn’t have anything
Ive now played the Gripen, F-16, F-15, M2k, Mig-29 and Su-27 and can say with confidence that the Su-27s performance is massively worse than all of these planes the primary issue being energy retention while all of these planes can pull slightly less AOA they can also at least maintain speeds above 1000kph while the Su-27 falls out of the sky if you decide to do anything but flying in a straight line
