Leopard2s in top tir too weak

perfect then i wont waste my time going further

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“I’ll ignore everything that doesn’t confirm my personal bias, based on my subjective experience while mainly playing the T80UD and TURMS in full downtiers against folks who can barely pen me!”

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I assume you took about 5s to look at my statcard. Last time I actually played them I was level 45 and grinding my first tree. Since we’re doing that, I went ahead and took a look at yours. Your highest BR is 10.7 in one nation, Germany. I don’t think you have a say at top tier.

Past 6 months of what i’ve played. Distinct lack of UD or TURMS.

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I have two trees fully researched, but nice try. They remain your main and most played vehicles. Hell, even in your own post your most played tank remains a Russian heavy.

This is you, correct? No point in lying.

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You mean the one where I’m currently in the Process of spading 11.x stuff? Also, pulling up your stat shark nukes your own carefully curated “I totally don’t play undertiered Russian premiums” argument. Nor do I find the MI28NM, or T90 and co.

Were you perhaps pinocchio in your past life? Or just a pathological liar?

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90% of the vehicles in that screenshot aren’t even Russian lol.

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Yes, the problems faced by Germany’s top tir are all-encompassing. However, UHT has no room for further upgrades. And the EF2000 has been denied the “fire-and-forget” capability by Gaijin on the grounds that “NATO’s radar-guided brimstone is more effective than Kh38”. Therefore, the reinforcement of the Leopard 2 is necessary.

The UHT shouldn’t even have gone up in BR, it’s currently at the same BR as the MI28NM with LMURs.

And the EF2000 and co are hilariously gimped. It’s okay for LMURs to exist, but NATO can’t have any of their similar or even better ammunition.

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It would be if there’s more than 8 FnF Brimstones.

Not necessary. Tanks are fine.

Well then its a good thing that Gaijin could just limit the number of FnF Brimstones.

They are but apparently not fine enough to offset the weaknesses in the rest of the lineup

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I don’t disagree with that.

Then other parts of the lineup should be strengthened. Not making the best tank in the game better.

Agreed but looking at the IRIS T nerf, the fact that the EFT did not get HOSBO when it was added and the Tiger UHT being at the same BR as the new helis id say Gaijin really doesnt want to buff any other part of the lineup

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It’s how Gaijin makes money. Sad but true. IRIS-T and top tier Germany in general was the FOTM a couple updates ago, now its LMUR and top tier Russia.

I have even more clips, but i’d have to into my replays and record it. It’s all paid actors.

No they no fine ,They lack active defense and laser warning systems. The tank units of Germany and the USA are the only two that do not have these devices.

Popular =/= Good.

The Tiger H1 is in the top 5 most played tanks across the entire game.
Now, does that mean it’s one of the best tanks in the entire game, or does that mean there’s a lot of interest in it because it’s one of the most famous tanks across history?

I’m betting on the latter.

Russia has incredibly mid tanks at top-tier, the only reason their stats are high is the same reason it’s been for the majority of time where Russian MBT’s had decent stas: They get carried by other elements (CAS, heli’s, etc.).

Even the basic M1A1 Abrams is already superior to the T-80BVM (let alone the M1A2 SEP), the T-90M is just a worse T-80BVM and the T-72B3A is among the worst top-tier tanks in any nation.

You’re also cherry-picking the most recent stats.
Go back 1-4 months and check the performance stats of the T-80BVM then, they weren’t exactly pretty.
Nothing changed for these Russian MBT’s either, the only things that changed for Russia top-tier were things outside of their MBT’s (I.E., heli’s, SPAA, etc.).

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You likely aren’t getting an APS/LWS Leo for a while. I believe SEP V2 could mount LWS and Trophy, which would be nice. SEP V3 though, is not needed, much like the 2A8.

TIGER H1 is low BR More people will be can to play it

What do you think are the criteria for determining that the M1A1 > T90M, T80BVM?