When will the helicopters’ LDIRCM finally be updated? For the past nine months, the developer response has stated that it shouldn’t be possible to intercept more missiles than there are LDIRCM turrets.
This affects many nations that currently have little or no defense against the LDIRCM helicopters when playing with their “new” air defense systems.
The following are particularly affected (infrared systems):
Elde98 (Sweden)
NASAM 3 (Sweden/USA)
CLAWS (USA)
CS/SA5 (China)
IRIS-T SLM (Germany)
Finally, add the feature that the DIRCM systems can be overwhelmed with enough missiles. Two or more missiles would be sufficient for the Mi-28NM (1 LDIRCM turret), while three or more missiles would be enough for the Z-10ME, Mi-8AMTSh-VN and the AH-64E (since they have two LDIRCM turrets).
And please don’t comment with things like, “Then play Saclos SPAAS like Adats…”
The new systems were added because CAS was too strong, even according to Gaijin, and the old systems like Adats weren’t very effective.
Almost a year in and we are still waiting for this feature to be properly implemented. Not only is SLM completely negated by DLIRCM but SA-5 and Elde are also suffering because of it, so it’s not an isolated case, other IIR SAMs are also being impacted by it.
Then why is UHT still 12.7? By your logic, non-DLIRCM helis should be 12.0 or lower. They won’t go down just because DLIRCM is represented accurately.
All it means is that a IRIS-T battery has to dispense 2 or 3 missiles to take down a helicopter, which gives you more than enough time to avoid dying the first time you pop out.
12.7 and SA-5/CLAWS/Elde are much lower and feature IIR missiles; UHT is quite literally useless and has no way to defend itself against a single IR missile. Why isn’t UHT 11.7 already? DLIRCM helis won’t go down in BR because they still can defend themselves against it.
The LMURs are so good it can stay at 13.0, it is not going to struggle lol. Even if theoretically half the time someone spawns in an Mi-28NM it immediately got swatted out of the sky before firing a single missile, chances are it is still going to have a VERY positive kill ratio just for those instances every other game where 8 missiles get you 5-6 kills in the span of 30 seconds. Just because it might be easier to kill doesn’t mean it won’t still be overpowered, I mean, all it takes is for one to survive literally 60 seconds to fire all of its missiles and it has more an an ability to change the outcome of a match than an Su-30SM with Kh-38s
Precisely, it’s literally the best heli launched AGM in the game, by the time you dump all 8 missiles, you can easily get over 6 kills.
Even if an IRIS-T missile is launched at you, there is still a good chance you’ll dodge it and have enough time to dive before the second one hits you, and an Apache and Z-10 would have a greater chance to survive lol. People are delusional.
If you stand still and hover and die, then it’s literally on the player. Also nevermind the fact that IRIS-T is extremely slow compared to the new SPAAs added, so the window to react is extremely high.
There goes Onyy with his crazy talk again, “why isn’t the UHT 11.7”
Hmm. 12x F&F AGMs?
Over the Rotor mounted sight? (Literally means you can hide the whole heli without ever exposing yourself, and needs no LDIRCM because of this). this is if you play it correctly too
And saying Mi-28NM (which has Maus syndrome, aka, everyone immediately targets it), is like saying the Leo2a7V should stay 12.7 if they stripped all the armor off to make it as armored as a Leo 1.
It just doesn’t make sense.
People really over estimate the LMURs, thinking they’re like a 100% magical hit rate or something.
They literally just added them yesterday. It won’t change anything, you are arguing in bad faith because PARS is extremely unreliable.
You have to expose yourself to even launch them in the first place, most maps are flat and have exposed helipads in the LOS of enemy SPAA. So this is extremely map dependent and situational. A 12.0 Elde98 can literally erase you the moment you spawn in most maps.
You can make UHT 12.3 and it would still be useless because of CLAWS/Elde and SA-5. Never mind the fact that it has to contest with other FnF helicopters, and there is nothing you can do either.
You continued to lie about the Mi-28Nm’s protections MONTHS after we did extreme testing.
And found that:
The Mi-28Nm could literally be hit despite it LDIRCM being directly in visual of IRIS-T
It was the least consistent heli, often being 50/50 for hits to misses.
No matter the position / angle of the MI-28NM it could still be hit.
Meanwhile:
The AH-64Es and Z-10ME were pretty much unphased. (Even after the AH-64 took a direct hit on the nose, it was still flying).
And you continued to say the MI-28Nm was untouchable, this that, yada yada.
Also, the UHT got a buff and didn’t move up in BR? Surprising… but I suppose that only happens to Russian vehicles.
If CLAWS, by your opinion, makes UHT unviable even at 12.3…
Then I guess all these should go down in BR?
AH-64 (D-A), AH-1Z, KA-52, MI-35P, KA-50 (this poor heli is the only none thermals heli past 10.7 btw), Rooivalk Mk1F, AH-64DJP/(AT), Z-10/10A, Z-19E, and the AH-64 Petens?
All of which do not posses F&F, like the UHT did for 5-6 years before anyone else got them.
