Give the ww2 heavies drones so they can see better.This would be fun and stay in canon with Warthunders idea of realism.
Simple evaluation of a GOOD tank in war thunder.
A killer on a downtier, a above average tank on a even match and can hold his own on a uptier.
Many WW2 heavies will do this…
BTW…“hold his own” means being able to kill reasonably (not needing a pinpoint shot) MOST enemies in the match.
You can always find a matchup with a +1BR tank that ANY tank will struggle with…but ON AVERAGE KT and most WW2 heavies are fine. And when they are not bottom tier they are very good.
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Do people even play to win in the post war era or just use it as a stepping pass through to the modern age?
Agreed. And something like a Tiger II has an easier time than other heavies.
Depends on the individual player. I know players who find heavies boring and want to spend only the minimal necessary amount of time grinding around 6.7 so they can move on. One of my close friends on the other hand plays every BR but likes 7.7 the most, whereas I never go above 7.7 and I consider 6.7 to be my favourite.
We all play for our own reasons, at the end of the day.
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No, it’s just not possible cause there aren’t enough weapons at that Tier that can frontally engage it. The closest being T29, T34, M26 Pershings. While other nations at the moment simply do not have one in the game. All you’d need to do is focus on the minor nation and give them a WW2 Heavy tank that could effectively engage other Late War Heavies. Whether this is armor or just a glass cannon. But this just depends on Gaijin’s willingness to add certain Paper Designs that were either rumored or built to some extent or factories were preparing to produce it. But time will tell I suppose.
I just hate that ww2 /post war crossover, its a pure passion killer so I am toying with the idea of simply rolling through it to around 8_9 and seeing if the grass is greener in the land of the T54 etc
Just because the ammo is good, doesn’t mean the tank is for Sweden.
I was referring to the fact that most of those nations tanks are cold war around that BR, and have no ww2/early cold war things that can be put there, not sweden specifically.
It’s not desync. It’s not. No matter how much you scream, it’s not.
Quote me where I claimed that. Fucking quote it or sictir.
Yeah, you’ll stick with the Tiger II and arrive at the battlefield when Jesus will come on Earth a second time. While the Maus arrives at the end of the Solar System.
Your words are enough of a source. I’ve never heard (or almost never, I’m playing WT since 2020) someone cry so loud about how the Tiger II is a wonderful tank.
Yeah, I almost reached the end of the line for the US. And yes, I passed 6.7 faster than you. Congrats. And I’m not your buddy, I would never be friends with someone so limited.
Wharg…
KTH isnt even that slow
Next time I pen a T29 through the mantlet, I’ll be sure to upload the video here.
Unlike you, I have no problem backing up my statements. You said:
To which I said that I would rather shoot twice with the KwK 43 than shoot once with a gun with more penetration and damage (using the PAK 44 as an example). You were citing it as a factor for why the Tiger II doesn’t have good firepower, I disagree because I think RoF is one of its greatest strengths compared to most heavies at its BR bracket.
Yes, a source for you being a clown. You made an idiotic statement about being a US main because you wanted to delegitimise my argument instead of actually engaging with it, and you made yourself look like a complete fool since I am in fact a German main. But you keep doubling down in the hope that if you close your eyes hard enough, the embarrassment will go away.
Well, close your eyes to this:
And you say I’m the American main?
Because I did not pass 6.7. I do not play for the grind. It’s my favourite BR in the game, and I enjoy playing it.
It’s my second-favourite ground vehicle in the game, besides the Jagdtiger (which, while being higher in my subjective enjoyment rankings, is definitely way less meta than the Tiger II). Cry about it.
Imagine being shown up like this by someone who’s limited. What does that say about you, buddy?
Oh wait, I know.
That’s the last problem with his posts. He literally can’t conceive of someone disagreeing with him so deeply that he had to make up the fact that I’m apparently an American main who’s never ground out the American tree, because his brain is incapable of computIng any other possibility.
Uh, yeah, the Tiger II H IS that slow. Reacts slowly, accelerates slowly.
Today I’m missing out on popcorn but tomorrow I should be able to buy some.
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Thats fairly decent for a heavy tank.
This is the IS-2
and the IS-3
It is not slow to react. It has mediocre acceleration, a decent top speed, and a decent turret traverse. Its hull rotation speed is poor compared to other tanks, and its elevation speed is average.
There are tanks that react much slower, and other heavy tanks at the same BR that react much faster.
The people who think a tank should be 100% frontally invulnerable are the ones with the mindset problem. People at like its the easiest thing in the world to successfully flank, and that somehow sitting stationary the entire game is the hardest thing in the world. It’s the mindset that got the 5.3-worthy (imo) M18 to 6.0.
The M18 going up is exactly what I’m referring to, that’s a great change. Light vehicles have mobility, (usually) size, scouting, arty, and so on in their favour; they have everything going for them except armour… and as such their place is not fighting things head on. Just like SPAAs shouldn’t be (though not to that much of an extreme).
Heavies, on the other hand, trade basically everything for armour, aside from sometimes a decent-to-good gun.
Heavies facing things that can frontally pen them at their own BR (aside from things that trade a lot to have a good gun, like TDs/etc) means they lose their one main reason to be, and are essentially just bad mediums.
Light tanks that can’t frontally pen things with heavy armour lose… none of their actual intended benefits. They still get to be fast, small, and get bonuses none/few others get.
I’d be more inclined to accept “everything should be able to frontally” if everything also had access to arty and scouting. Those abilities are supposed to be bonuses which help make up for weaknesses.
Not being able to frontally engage well is why light vehicles get both. Having trouble with heavier targets is why light/mediums get arty, and why heavies and TDs don’t.
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The slow heavy tank situation vs modern and fast is compounded by having a new or often a full line up of unmodded tanks which are even more useless.I can see why many players stop at a certain relatively early BR. For an adult with historical interest in Armour the game not only becomes childish and silly but no fun to play.Every hit at the side or rear early into the game by a vehicle 20 or 30 years newer than my WW2 heavy becomes an insult and often results in early leaving or just quitting WT or playing only before 5BR as many do.WT could remodel itself slighty to cater for this many think,but could it? I think its a mistake Gaijin are stuck with.I think low tiers work ,high tiers work but mid tier sucks.
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this is why i hate modern light with modern high pen ammo, or modern high pen ammo at all, at a ww2 br. Like they have every light advantage (maybe even more like gun traverse etc) vs heavy at its br on top of having a gun that can easily pen anything that negate armor of a heavy in its br, or much above in many case, thus making heavy tank advantage basically non existent, the heavy become a less agile, bigger, slower, (in many case) slower turret travers medium tank at that point, basically a medium tank without medium tank advantage
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Here’s a more complete picture(s) of these 3 tanks:
a) IS-2 (1944)
b) IS-3 (sorry, with a quick google search I only found the russian version)
c) Tiger II H
So the PtW is the best on the IS-2 and the IS-3 is ever so slightly better. The 2 H is the worst. Yes, the Tiger II H has neutral steering, but unless in very tight spaces, I’d rather drive forward a tiny bit and then go left or right, so the IS-2 is better here. The IS-2 will also accelerate faster than the Tiger (with the IS-3 as far as I know not being that different to the Tiger, though far better armored) and is the likeliest to reach top speed (good luck reaching top speed outside of very specific circumstances with the Tiger II H on the current WT maps).