Last stand of Air Realistic Battles

let’s take a look back and learn why they can’t win game single handedly anymore:
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back in the days, bombers were spammed because they could destroy all bases and the airfield (which was an objective back in the day to win the game).
but then, fighter players cried that games lasted 3 minutes, and they can’t do a thing (true)
→ so gaijin made bombers to be completely useless planes,

Results: impossible to win anygame with them, unless flying 12000m and gunning down every other players.

so,… they were designed to win games, but not anymore.
it’s due to the fighter population that the game ended up as a TDM gamemode.

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Me when I get to shoot all aspect IR missiles against flareless planes = :)

Me when my flareless plane gets slammed by IR missiles = :(

I simply cannot understand the thought process of people that voted No on that question.
The single spawn system singlehandedly stops ARB from ever becoming an interesting mode with plenty of things to do.

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Mfw you have 2 years in this game and you dont even realize that AB rewards are significantly worse than RB rewards…

You “Air RB purists” are really something

The guy that is fighting tooth and nail against half the people in this thread is pretty much the people who voted “No” in a nutshell. Like, 25mins with multiple respawns is a great middle ground for all of this

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i’m not agreeing,… RB mode could already be an intersting mode, with better objectives , while remainning a single spawn gamemode,…

it would require people to “think” and that’s what most don’t want.

but adding Multiple spawn will decrease rewards to similar levels of what we have for Arcade
(Sim is way different, because of the difficulty that is fairly increased)

the problem lies in-between those 2 majors differences between SIM community (that are mainly not filled with Mid-Map rushing players), and arcade/RB (most exclusively filled with mid-map rushing players)

Even with current EC SIM respawn: many loosing players will quit before the end of a battle.
and thinking of it, with the mind of a current RB player, it will only be worse with RB if we allow that.

If we were to get a GRB respawn system:
many games would fastly end up in 2vs2 or 1vs9 situations aswell

If we were to get an AB Air respawn system, the team with the most aircraft in the lineup will have far greater chances to win the game - as Air AB today

So all in all,… Respawn is not a good idea.

as such, adding better maps, with new objectives that gives an edge or not to your team, will improve the RB mode, without needing the respawn capacity:

or even things like:

and for all of that to work in RB mode, maybe some tactical team rewards and/or system needs to be implemented as well.

read again,… i said:

Air Arcade Rewards sucks because Respawn
so :
if Air RB is getting Respawn, the mode will have a reward decrease with it.

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My brother in christ it literally has nothing to do with the respawns, on Sim EC you get planes with way better rewards and you can respawn, I joined in 2017 and as far as I remember, Air RB earns you way more than AB because Gaijin´s game design. Even worse today, where you earn dogwater because of the Economy nerf rework.

Please stop with these assumptions. 😭

I already told you why this is ridiculous.

calling Air Sim rewards way better than ARB is definitely something

“hAvE YoU sEeN Ab rEwArD”

Holy whine. Get back to your feet and wipe that damn tear off your cheek.

This thread exists to address the game issues. Insulting reward to effort ratio is also part of the issue. If you can’t acknowledge something as basic as low overall payout that plague all mode as THE problem to fix and instead uses it as leverage to only water your side of the lawn instead of making sure that everybody, get equal access to water then you are nothing but a selfish prick.

You are what is wrong with War Thunder player on all level. Tunnel-visioned selfish manchild with 0 sense of camaraderie that would definitely jump to the last boat and leave everyone to drown as long as you’re warm and dry.

How damn hard it is for you to propose an “overall reward rework” that does not shaft multi-spawn game mode? Hard enough that you broke a leg doing that? Grow up a bit and save some of that water for everyone.

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In terms of playing a “full” match of Air AB and the same time on Sim, I know the economy there is on even a worse state

Not that I would have a specific problem with CCs being advisors, but it’s really not their job to have to do such a thing. There are Gaijin employees who should work as proper community managers. If those managers decide to be CCs, that’s up to them, but “outsourcing” community management is one way to ensure no accountability.
We shouldn’t need people who already have lives and jobs to be pressured by their communities into doing another job for a giant company. Kind of like I’ve seen Defyn mentioned, he took a step back from the game for a reason.

Adding respawns to air rb is like making it into an entirely new mode

Imagine if ground rb only had 1 spawn, it would be entirely different from what it is now

Also the only reason why air rb rewards are so good is because it’s a no respawn mission

What this entire post is asking for is Air RB EC (which was tested in the past) and decompression

Air RB is fine as the primary PVP mode however there need to be more PVE focused options

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My god not this again. You damn people keep talking whining about “but reward small” rather than proposing that an overall reward rework that does not shaft multi-spawn game mode.

War Thunder player and sucking off status quo. name a duo with better synergy than this.

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Last time there was a reward rework, the community voted to nerf rewards accross the board

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This again.

Y’all beyond saving. literally the guy from the “flooded house, boat, chopper and god” story.

And ?
What’s so weird in changing the mode from the ground up if it’s evident it doesn’t work with current settings ?

ARB should encompass both PvP and PvE at the same time.

Source ?

Because there’s still people that enjoy the current mode?

So the bases and ai targets don’t exist in air rb?

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You also have people that don’t enjoy the current mode ?
Just imagine how bad our electronics would be if designers just opted to stick with all of their original ideas and made zero updates that change things from the base.

PvE impact should be much bigger as there is a whole class of planes that is literally built to do just that.

That’s not what nerfing rewards across the board looks like.