KV-1A - Klimi a Finnish KV-1 model 1942

Average vehicle addition count of updates without sub-trees: 42.
Go count the vehicles in the leak list.

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oh that, i’m aware that not every vehicle tends to be mentioned in these types of leaks but i’m a bit dissapointed that only the KV-1A is shown as a premium

Think they also mentioned a French naval leak but no list had been made

Right because it should totally be the same BR as the Zis 5, again it has no lineup so its useless.

The russian version will be tt

Yeah, noticed that

Why would it be 4.7 either? It’s at most the Zis-5 gun without the armor.
It’d be 4.0 - 4.3.

The KV-1A has 105mm armor on the turret not 90mm like the Zis 5 what are you on?

@AlvisWisla

The KV-1B has base 75mm turret armor with the sides being covered with a 30mm plate bringing the turret to 105mm, so what again will happen is what i said before. It will be the same br as the better KV-1C on germany and thus be useless on finland.

Additionally it is also slightly worse as it is missing the 25mm side armor found on the KV-1B behind the tracks.

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@Pheonix_RX01
105mm cast = 98.7mm RHA equivalent, which while not the 90mm of Zis 5 doesn’t matter.
So as I said 4.3 probable; 4.7 possible and definitely not 5.0 as you falsely claim…

It has the same hull as the Zis 5 what do you mean?

So again i must ask why you keep thinking it would be below the Zis 5.

So again, KV-1A will have better armor than the Zis 5 turret wise as bith have the same hull. Yet it will have a worse gun than the KV-1C so either way it is worthless on finland as sweden has a 4.0 T34 1941, a 4.0 TD with 158 pen and poor mobility, no armor. And 2 other Mid TD’s at 4.0 yeah definitely worth the .7 BR increase. Or if you play 5.0 the KV-1A gets merked by vehicles with better guns and armor. So again i gotta say the KV-1A was not what finland needed to get Heavy tank wise. This tank will be garbage if released at 4.7 or higher which it will and gaijin will force you to have to pay for it which is the most hilarious joke just like gaijins care for the finnish subtree.

What do you mean? Why would a vehicle which is still better than the ZIS 5 be lower in BR? Its better armor and unlike the german KV-1C it wont have the cupola weakspot. So it wont be an instant one shot but it also wont have the gun to handle a slight uptier. So again why should it be 4.7 when it is better than the Zis 5?

It’s not better than the Zis-5. It’s at most on-par with the Zis-5.
The fact that Russian main argument of not being able to stand the game being balanced is hilarious.

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So again we are back to the problem with it. If it goes to 4.7 it has a sub par lineup in which you pay to get clubbed unless you get decent maps since none of the TD’s reslly do anything great. Or it goes to 5.0 for the cupola trade off for the gun and it does poorly regardless. Again it wasn’t the right choice for finland since gaijin has zero interest in balance to begin with.

Also are you calling me a russian main? If so what the actual hell, and if not no worries.

Not calling you any main; I’m calling the argument of saying KV-1A should be a higher BR than Zis-5 despite them being at most equal is a “Russian main-like argument”.
I poorly worded it initially, but it is largely correctly worded currently.

No one is stopping you from putting a 4.7 tank into a 5.0 lineup.

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And nobody wants to play a tank that cant fight back either. Especially if you have to pay to get it. Also i used logic to explain why it would be 5.0, it is better armor wise than the Zis 5, and it is better technically thsn the german version because it doesnt have the cupola. In exchange for the german model having a usable gun. The problem is that it wont be a good tank unless its a full downtier in which its still not as good as some of its contemporaries KV-1B/E fair trade off imo, gun for armor. Neither will be able to kill each other easily but the difference in BR is staggering for the slight changes.

If gaijin actually cared about balance wed see much better decompression and maybe these vehicles wouldn’t be so downtier reliant. Regardless its also silly to bother playing the finnish version when i have a better lineup on russia especially when vehicles like the T34-57 still sit at 4.7

There we go!

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Sucks that it’ll have no real lineup to play with which kills the vehicle for me, unless gaijin decides that it should be 4.3 and just ignores the Zis-5 at 4.7

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Sadly it’s a premium, meaning the Swedish tree still has no tech tree heavy tanks. And most likely never will since this was one of the very few options for that.

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It never will. Finland is the only nation that could give heavies and 2 at that unless gaijin accepts a thrid tank finland captured repaired and then blew up before officially going into service.

KV-1B is forever going to be a german vehicle.

It’s flagged as a Finnish vehicle, I didn’t test if it got the Finnish crew voices, but yeah, sadly it won’t ever come to the Swedish/Finnish tech tree.