MAWS was added last patch but i hear ya i hate being a downer but hey wont be until the typhoon is added we will have anything top tier competitive however if most of the last top tier additions are to be the guide it will be added when everyone else is already past it. see Javelin, Lightning, Tornado and f.3 tornado. its just tiring ive been playing since 2016ish and only gotten to top tier in one tree UK that’s with premium.
i think its just a consolation for no actual top tier jet considering it is the highest BR we have
Its also been chronically underperforming since December and they probably didnt want to reduce its BR as at least with an 11.7 British TT doesnt look too bad. If we had nothing but 11.3s… then it would look a lot worse.
it was kinda fun before the f16 and mig29 could surprise people with viffing but when almost every plane you vs is a f16 or mig29 its super outclassed
I’ve won some dogfights vs Mig-29s in the Gr7 in SB, but took everything I had. The lack of radar though makes it an exhausting jet to fight vs those 12s.
It was boarderline OP before F-16s and Mig-29s, but between 9L nerfs and the addition of things to counter it, including top tier SPAA in GRB. It just lost all of its power. People have also gotten smarter in how they fight it. Everything is stronger when things are new and at the time 9Ls were new at top tier.
Gr7 is by far still the best A2A jet we’ve got and that was before Aim-9M. Now its pretty potent, but again, lack of radar kinda sucks in SB, Using TIALD pod to VID targets is exhausting
really Unexpected tbh, still a Welcome buff even tho I don’t have it
Yep, though it does have one other edge in SB. It has a rating of 11.0. This does mean it can face 12.3s still 50% of the time, but the other 50% of the time its facing things like Mig-23MLs and Su-39s. Which is a very fun fight. Its a real shame they maintain the Gr1 and F3 at their RB or higher ratings because htey wouldnt be quite as bad if they could face EC8 more often or in the case of the F3, at all
I think they would need both: Naval is a mode w/ lineups, and additions in such modes - esp. at end-of-line - place high importance on providing players options to create them. The Bismarck-classe sit in an awkward spot in relation to that, being above the capability of the majority of battleships the DE tt can receive – because of that, it seems unlikely that either will not be freely researchable.
If you mean Gneisenau, her appearance in the 2.7.0.55 leak indicates she’ll be added w/ the same guns as Scharnhorst:
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Gneisenau
Scharnhorst
These would be sidegrades to Bayern, or maybe to Scharnhorst, but I doubt they would be comparable to the Bismarck sisters. And would once again be for lineups below them, like the other WW1 battleships.
This one has the reverse situation of the previous, it 's addition is predicated on the idea that it 's superior to the Bismarck 's to the point that it 's incomplete status would not be an obstacle to implementation, since w/o it the techtree would not have a comparable-power platform to fight the ( completed ) ships of other nations.
And so, would again not be forming a lineup w/ the Bismarck types.
I don’t think we’d ever see either, DE techtree already predicted to need incomplete battleships just to fight built ones like Iowa, and US already having the option of Iowa.
More likely imo is that we’ll see other kinds of warship, which are not yet present ingame, start to turn up when the options for complete and incomplete battleships classes to move upwards in capability dwindle into single ships, per techtree. Rather than trying to move into completely unbuilt paper projects.
There are a number of battleships DE can yet receive yes, but very few w/ post-WW1 capability( effective AA, modern torpedo defences etc. ). Which makes it seem unlikely that Bismarck or Tirpitz would not be in the techtree, since they would be the sole option to form a lineup of roughly equivalent capability w/ the other - very important to the devs as we reach the end of top Rank additions, as we’re seeing in Ground.
Not this image again 😒
It 's utterly fictional, created by a defense blog in the early 00’s ( Pigs Forever? Part 1 - 4 F-111 Life of Type; F-111 Missileers; Supercruising the Pig; Alternate Force Structures ) as part of their campaign to sway the Australian armed forces away from their plans to retire the F-111C. It was never seriously considered at any level, and noone will ever be saltier abt that than the blog 's owners.
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I was thinkling that F-111 image looked a bit… extreme.
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I’m just glad to have sluiced it before we got into another " F-111 could carry 20+ Sidewinders bc I said so " arguement like the old thread did.
Does anyone have that one screenshot of someone confirming that sweden and britain will be getting something soon?
Haha, yeah, that would have been crazy. It was what, 6x 9Ls and the occasional Aim-54/Aim-120?
Here it is
Its now been confirmed that this is Dec update not this update unfortunately
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4x AIM-9J/P at best afaik, since fin clearance for Navy-style Sidewinders on the F-111 's couldn’t be achieved. There were tests of one (1) AIM-7 station on an F-111D also, and the F-111B was certainly one of the aircraft to ever exist.
I have Smin confirming that such confirmation existed, does that count ? ( Kings of Battle - Rumor Round-Up and Discussion (Part 2) - #3282 )
So not too game breaking in A2A then. Is going to be intersting to see its loadout tomorrow
Which even then with the radar the Gripen will have the exact same radar
Oh right, thats a point… well, never mind then. FA2 would be DOA.
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I hate to harden the blow for yall but id rather yall know now then later
Hello everyone in this beautiful morning (for me at least). It seems like this topic was locked because of the UK mains. Not Bad!
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I remember someone mentioning it before. I just forgot. It’s gunna be a loooooong 2024 at the moment. Nothing but DOA jets again
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