Continuing the discussion from Kings of Battle - Rumor Round-Up and Discussion (Part 1) - #10125.
Previous discussions:
WELCOME to the War Thunder - Rumor Round-Up and Discussion Thread!
Here you can discuss everything related to the upcoming major update, including rumors, data mines, and dev blogs.
However, please AVOID these types of discussions:
Wishlisting. Some examples:
- “I want the F-22 next update!”
- “Gaijin where are these vehicles!!!” <lists 10 vehicles they want in the game>
There’s a separate thread for this here
Vehicle spec discussions, such as armour, ammo, ordnance, guns, data sheets, performance. Some examples:
- “I hope for these vehicles, they will balance the game. They have XYZ ordnance and will counter the XYZ!”
- 2 page discussions about what type of ammo a new tank in a dev blog will get. Now this is fine for the most part since a vehicle in the dev blog is part of the next update, however it can escalate into completely other discussions so do be careful!
There’s plenty of threads for these discussions here.
Bug reports, issues, suggestions, feedback for dev-server or testing. Some examples:
- “Abrams is missing its thermals. However that’s not meant to be as it had this historically. Smin fix this!!!”
- “I think that Challenger 3 would be a good addition to British Ground tree, here are the specs for it”
- “This thing is bugged on the dev server, devs please fix it!”
You can make a bug report here and suggestion here. When the dev server is up, use the DEV Server Section for feedback.
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You must remember that this is the most popular and active thread on the forum. Its aim is to put all of the next update’s information in one place so it can be discussed amongst the community. Other discussions like outlined in the examples above can be discussed in proper forum sections. Often official Gaijin members will respond on this thread so do be sure to remain respectful! Otherwise they may just stop. Please also remember that everyone is entitled to their own opinions on what may be coming. If you follow the forum rules, you’ll be okay!
Please use the Sons of Attila Thread to discuss Major Update “Sons of Attila”. Complaining here won’t solve anything and is considered off-topic.
Frequently Asked Questions
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Q: What is this thread about?
- This thread is about the upcoming major update and future content.
Q: Will you add… (insert thing here)?
- No. We are not developers, just nosy players.
Q: Why isn’t (insert vehicle) on the list?
- Either because there is no evidence that this vehicle may be added, or because no one told me that there is such evidence.
Q: Why is (vehicle/feature) on the Denied list?
- Because said feature or vehicle was denied by Gaijin developers or their representatives at some point in the past.
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- Off-Topic comments will often be removed to keep this thread readable and on topic. No need to be alarmed or comment if your post disappears. If you are concerned, contact a Forum Moderator or Senior Forum Moderator privately.
Q: When will we get the patch?
- Currently, the best guess is October 2023.
Q: What if I don’t want to read all the comments to find out what will come?
- Read the OP. It will remain frequently updated with new information as it comes in.
Note: The lists below have NOT been updated for Sons of Attila yet.
List of things related to next update (What we know so far)
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This is the list of stuff we know has been confirmed, plausible, denied, and also datamines related to the next major update. If you think something is missing from this list, please tag @TheElite96 in a reply, or send a private message.
First off, big image leak: 2.7.0.55 new - Album on Imgur
Note that this big image album may or may not be relevant to the next update.
Likely
- empty :(
Plausible
- empty :(
General overview of stuff collected over time (Updated frequently)
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Items that have been confirmed officially by Gaijin will have
preceding them.
Aviation
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General
- Various aircraft model assets (some already added) - Source 1 / Source 2
- The Netherlands: B-25J-30 - Source 1 / Source 2
- H-75A-7 (NL) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files
- H-75N (Thai) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files
United States
- A-20A (1942) - Source (note: old asset)
- A-4M - Source 1 / Source 2
- F2G-2 - Source 1 / Source 2
- P-35A - Source 1 / Source 2
- YF2L-1 - Source 1 / Source 2
- PV-2 (CDK finds) - Source
- PBM-5a (data finds, removed from files since) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3
- F-8A Crusader - Source
- F-89J - Source 1 / Source 2
- F-89C (30 mm) - Source
- F-89C (Rockets) - Source
- J2M3 - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added)
- P-66 - Source 1 / Source 2
- A-35B - Source 1 / Source 2
- F6F-3 - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: the F6F-5 came instead, unused since then)
- PBJ-1J-1 - Source 1 / Source 2
- PV-2 - Source 1 / Source 2
- SB2C-5 - Source 1 / Source 2
- TBD-1 (1937) - Source 1 / Source 2
- F-82G - Source tech tree picture picture found in the files
Germany
- B-17 G - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added)
- MiG-3 - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added)
- Mosquito FB Mk. VI - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added)
- P-39Q-5 - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added)
- P-51B - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added)
- Pe-2-359 - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added)
- Bf 110C-4 - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: the C-7 came in its stead in 1.79, unused since then)
- H-75A-2 - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4
- H-75A-4 - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4
- B-24D - Source tech tree picture picture found in the files
- IL-4 - Source tech tree picture picture found in the files
- P-38G - Source tech tree picture picture found in the files
- P-51D-5 - Source tech tree picture picture found in the files
- Typhoon Mk. Ib - Source tech tree picture picture found in the files
- Typhoon Mk. Ib/late - Source tech tree picture picture found in the files
Russia / Soviet Union
- MDR-6 - Source 1 / Source 2
- P-47D-22 - Source 1 / Source 2
- BI-6 - Source
- I250 - Source
- La-7r - Source
- MiG-19S (CDK find) - Source
- DI-6 - Source
- IL-20 - Source
- Yak-25 - Source
- I-215 - Source
- VI-100 - Source
- R-10 - Source
- Tu-12 - Source
- PBY-5 - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added)
- DB-3A - Source 1 / Source 2
- Gudkov K-37 - Source 1 / Source 2
- I-16 Type 17 - Source 1 / Source 2
- LaGG-3-1 - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added)
- LaGG-3-29 - Source 1 / Source 2
- MiG-15bis (NS-23) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4
- SB-2M-100a (Spain) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4
- MiG-3U - Source 1 / Source 2 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files
Great Britain
- Baltimore Mk. V - Source
- Spitfire HF. Mk. VII - Source 1 / Source 2
- Swift F. 2 - Source 1 / Source 2
- Spitfire IX If c (data finds, removed from files since) - Source 1 / Source 2
- Lincoln B Mk I (data finds) - Source 1 / Source 2
- Whirlwind Mk II - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3
- Early Seafires - Source (Some variants mentioned here have been added)
- Maryland Mk I (data finds) - Source 1 / Source 2
- Shackleton MR.Mk 1 (data finds) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4
- Welkin Mk.I (data finds, removed from files since) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4
- Welkin Mk.I late (data finds, removed from files since) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4
- Bf 109F-4 - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added)
- Boston Mk. II - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added)
- J2M3 - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added)
- Catalina Mk. I - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added)
- Catalina Mk. I RAAF - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added)
- Hurricane Mk. I - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: the Hurricane Mk. I/late came in its stead, unused since the n)
- Mustang Mk. IA (p_51_mk1a) - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: the current one uses the p_51b model)
- H-75A-4 (Mohawk IV) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4
- Havoc Mk. I Pandora - Source 1 / Source 2
- Intruder Mk. II - Source 1 / Source 2
- Mustang Mk. I - Source 1 / Source 2
Japan
- J5N1 (late) - Source 1 / Source 2
- J5N2 - Source
- Ki-64 - Source
- Ki-74 - Source
- Ki-88 - Source
- H8K1 - Source
- H8K4 - Source
- LaGG-3-8 - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added)
- Ki-45 ko tei - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4
- Ki-45 hei tei - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4
- G4M1 pre-1943
- G5N2 - Source
- G8N2 - Source 1 / Source 2
- Ki-43-III ko - Source 1 / Source 2
- Removal of R2Y2s Planned - Source
China
- Q5D - Source 1 / Source 2
- Chinese P-36 found in CDK - Source
- H-75A-5 - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4
- H-75M - Source 1 / Source 2
- A6M5 - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4
- B-17 - Source 1 / Source 2
- La-7 - Source 1 / Source 2
- Pe-2-359 - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4
- P-26A-35 - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4
- MiG-15bis (NS-23) - Source 1 / Source 2 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files
- SB-2 (M-103U) (MV-3) - Source 1 / Source 2 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files
Italy
- Baltimore Mk. V - Source
- Bf 110C-3 - Source 1 / Source 2
- D.520 - Source 1 / Source 2
- Re.2000 G.A. Red 5 - Source
France
- Baltimore Mk. V - Source
- M.B.151-C1 - Source
- SNCAO 200 - Source 1 / Source 2
- H-75A-1 (1939) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4
- H-75A-2 - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4
- H-75A-3 - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files
- H-75A-3 (Vichy) - Source 1 / Source 2
Sweden
- Potential Swedish air tree candidates (pure guess work), Finnish ones, found in files - Source
- Pe-3bis - Source 1 / Source 2
- H-75A-1 (Finland) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4
- H-75A-3 (Finland) - Source 1 / Source 2 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files
- H-75A-4 (Finland) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4
- H-75A-6 (Finland) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files
Israel
- empty :(
Ground Forces
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- Regenerative steering - Source
- Time fused shells - Source 1 / Source 2
- Damage model of wheeled vehicles for damage to suspension and wheels - Source
- Single player ground campaign in the works - Source
- New Japan map - Source
United States
- T54E2 - Source 1 / Source 2
- M4A4 (data finds) - Source 1 / Source 2
- M3A3 (data finds) - Source
- M103A2 (possible) - Source
Germany
- Leopard 1M - Source
- Pz.Kpfw. 38 NA - Source 1 / Source 2
- Pz.Kpfw. IV E (H.A.) - Source
- Pz.35t Romania Mare premium (CDK and data finds) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3
- Leopard PSO - Source
Russia / Soviet Union
- 2S1 - Source
- BMD-4M - Source
- BMP-23 (BG) - Source
- GAZ-75 - Source 1 / Source 2
- M-55S (SLO) - Source
- Object 140 - Source
- BA-3 - Source
- BA-6 - Source
- More armoured cars - Source
- PT-76 - Source 1 / Source 2 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files
- T-90M (CDK finds) - Source
Great Britain
- Olifant Mk. 1B - Source
- Rooikat ZA HVM - Source 1 / Source 2 //note: won’t come due to only reaching mockup stage
- Vickers Mk. 11 - Source
- Cruiser Tank, Ram II - Source 1 / Source 2
Japan
- Ho-Ni II - Source
China
- Wan Cheng 2 - Source
- ZTS63A - Source
- Type 79 - Source
- PGZ88 - Source
- Type 59-II - Source
- BT-5 - Source 1 / Source 2 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files
- Ha-Go - Source 1 / Source 2 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files
- T-34-85 (D-5T) - Source 1 / Source 2 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files
Italy
- Turán I (HUN) - Source
- Turán III (HUN) - Source
- Zrínyi II (HUN) - Source
- 75/34 M43 with BREDA 8mm MG’s on top - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 / Source 5
- Plans to add more ground vehicles between 4.3 - 6.0 - Source
France
- AMD 35 (Kw.K. 39) - Source
- AMX 10 ACRA - Source
- Citroën-Kégresse P19T - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4
Sweden
Israel
- empty :(
Naval
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- New naval game modes - Source
- Texture updates for PT boats’ 37mm M4. - Source
turret_130mm_bl109a_twin and turret_305mm_sm31_triple? - used on “Stalingrad” class Heavy Cruiser - Source
United States
- Indianapolis - Source
Germany
Russia / Soviet Union
- Stalingrad - Source
- Oktyabrskaya Revolutsiya - Source
- “9M39 Igla on MPK pr.12412 currently WIP, to receive feature in a future update”
Great Britain
Japan
China
- Plans for the Chinese navy - Source
Italy
France
- empty :(
Helicopters
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General
- empty :(
United States
Germany
Russia / Soviet Union
- Mi-4V (CZ) - Source
Great Britain
- Wessex HU. Mk. 5 - Source 1 / Source 2
- Plans to develop the British helicopter research tree - Source
- Considering more helicopters, specifically the Westland Wessex - Source
Japan
- empty :(
China
- empty :(
Italy
- empty :(
France
- empty :(
Sweden
- empty :(
Israel
- empty :(
Submarines
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Other
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- Cluster bombs coming at some stage - Source
- Battle of Nijmegen WWM map - Source
- Amazonas map - Source
- Far East naval map - Source
- Flat Fulda ground map - Source
- Kamenka Quarry map - Source
- Kharkov ground map - Source
- Krymsk V2 ground map - Source
- Leningrad map - Source
- Messina ground map - Source
- North Port ground map - Source
- Norway Fjords ground map - Source
- Pacific naval map - Source
- River naval map - Source
- Siegfried line ground map - Source
Nations & Sub Trees
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Generally unclear
- empty :(
Please remember to keep on-topic and respect each other.
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