Kings of Battle - Rumor Round-Up and Discussion (Part 1)

Ah yes “some point”, Cant wait for that to be in 3 years and for that Puma to also be a buggy POS as well.

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“Muh 3 years!”
Dude, PSO was added within a year of every tech tree having an 11.7, and Germany’s getting a at least one more Leopard 2 this year.

My guess it would be that 2A7 as BvvD said something inthe AP dev stream.

Would be funny if Hungary and Finland got there at the same time

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Hungary uses the Leopard 2A7HU, not the 2A7, and Finland doesn’t use the 2A7, only the 2A6NL already in game.

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2A7HU is a 2A7, specifically a 2A7+.
You’re correct on Finland tho.
To be fair, Strv 122s can receive DM53 & be moved to 12.0 when 2A7+s arrive alongside rank 8 which will also see at least 11.7s move into.

Why should it? slpprj m/95 is its historical service shell and more than enough even for 12.0.

The 2A7+ has a number of upgrades over the standard 2A7.

2A7+ has more armor coverage than Strv 122 and will be firing DM53 out of their L/55s. ~80mm more pen at 60 degrees.
Then there’s T-90M which ends the turret weakspot of BVM.
Other tanks are also potentials.
We might even see ammo beyond DM53 for 12.0, or we might go to 12.3 for these new tanks. Time will tell.

On top of that, having anything above about 560-580mm of pen offers diminishing returns at best, so having DM53 won’t buff it in any meaningful way, just as adding DM53 to the C1’s didn’t buff them much.

Sweden has had 300+mm more KE worth of armor than Germany for 3 years… but somehow now that Germany is about to get similar protection levels, a 50mm of penetration difference becomes an issue?

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I also came here for this. Event vehicles? Maybe today? Crafting event starts on a Wednesday around the 20th of Sep the past three years I believe.
Would love anything Dutch. Preferably a unique aircraft like the Fokker G1 but would take anything copy paste too with a Dutch skin. Even tanks or ships, anything really would be fine.
A Belgian CF-100 would be epic too.

Exactly. It won’t buff it in any meaningful way, yet it takes yet more historical accuracy and realism away.

Sweden has used DM33 until late? 2022. Then it was upgraded to m/95, which has similar pen as DM43 being fired out of L/55; and a rather identical pen to L27A1 fired out of Challenger 2.
Germany isn’t about to get just similar protection levels unless you want the German 2A7+ to be firing DM43 instead of DM53.
It’s keeping the same round as well as having full side protection.

If DM53 wouldn’t buff it in any way why doesn’t Strv 122s use DM53 in War Thunder then?
Clearly the round choice with protection matters.

It doesn’t use it because there’s no reason to add it.

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Doesn’t matter, they can fire it.
Arietes don’t use DM53 IRL, but they can so they use it in War Thunder.
When stuff like SHARD is added, it’ll likely be given to every 120mm gun they want at that BR cause they can fire it.

@SPANISH_AVENGER
Then DM43 can be on Leopard 2A7+ for equality.

m/95 is a M829A1 and M322 equivalent, simply put.

France has a worse shell on significantly worse armored tanks, and Britain has an even worse shell on worse armored tanks which also happen to be the slowest in the game.

I think m/95 is sufficient for what will remain as one of the strongest tank in the game, even once counterparts for it begin coming.

If DM53 wouldn’t buff it in any way why doesn’t Strv 122s use DM53 in War Thunder then?
Clearly the round choice with protection matters.

Because it’s completely uneccesary and unhistorical? Arietes only got it because they were outclassed in every single way imaginable, so it was half-justified. But Strv 122s?

It very much does matter; if it didn’t, then they’d have it already.

The only thing that matters is balancing. The reason DM53 isn’t on Strv 122 is cause it’d need to be 12.0 instead of 11.7.

I give up.

The reason it doesn’t have it is because it would perform the same with it, and thus there is no reason for its addition.