KH-38 needs to be nerfed or removed. GRB is unplayable

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According to?

Do you mean being able to lock onto people via IRST based on their radar return?
Welcome to poor implementation of every SPAA in the game! Anything with radar and IRST as the sole locking feature is unable to slew via radar, from the CV9040 to even the Soviet SPAA.

According to?

As is everything else in the game. Welcome to engine limitations and poor implementation.

It has TWS. It sort of came with its optical tracking.

Are you talking the sim sights or gun-attached sight?

Still sim sights?

According to?

So… Datalink?
According to?

It’s more than capable of intercepting Kh-38Ms, Vikhrs, Kedges, and Karens.

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all of these are answered in the thread I mentioned

stop trying to derail this thread

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You didn’t link a thread.

Are you not the one that just derailed the thread by accusing me of having an entirely fictitious viewpoint?

Are you lost? Genuinely, I think you need some help.

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because you dont know how to search stuff

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No

Well, yes but no. It was by no means provided to the crew

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Not when you say “that one thread where the thing is mentioned”, though I still wouldn’t take that thread with a granule of salt.

Even with that as your backing, you still misstated and even downright missed the target on some of your points.

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At most you get time to target… Unless it somehow has datalink as a beamriding system and just so happened to never mention it

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No. It was used internally by the system for the coded laser telescope. Was it measured by LRF, was it time based. Idk.

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Not that type. 20 targets (10 on the US ADATS) were TWS by the radar.

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We must be using different ADATS, I can watch as the SU30/34 ripples off KH38m’s and turns back for base before ever being within my range. Then I have 6 Kh to deal with that I can barely find and if I manage to get a lock on one I loose it instantly.

Best case I can save myself whilst watching my teammates get obliterated and leave the game early.

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I know what you mean. There’s currently nothing you can do. Only SPAA which might have the range is also on russian side and keep air space clear for KH-38 jets.

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Classic German player, go to the corner of the map with spawn and complain about attack aircraft.

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Alpharius, this topic is about Kh-38 not ADATS, and you’re accusing the other party of attempting to derail the topic.

Being correct about ADATS’ elevation doesn’t mean others are being mean.
Foxxo’s a sincere dude.

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you mean without the use of jets?

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so apparently someone demanding that I list a bunch of stuff here instead of him going and looking for it himself isnt derailing the thread

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I mean of you want to go the assymetric balance way why not, but it would require western CAP to be first spawnable, like helis with rockets

You either go the full realistic way and take doctrine into account in game, or KH38 has to be nerfed to reasonable levels for the time being. It can be buffed again once everyone gets long range SAMs

The entire Manpads category for starters

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I take it you play GRB and only GRB?

The only one that’s functioning properly is the Igla, and that’s because it has relatively simple systems and a LOT of documentation.

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i think you cant push the G button

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No i don’t, what of it ?

The others have their share of documentation too, developers decided to go guess time instead when it comes to G overload. As for Igla it’s still impacted by the infrared signature of helicopters being all over the place, as any other manpads. Mistral lacks 2 entire variants and stinger has its fair share of issues as well, although i’m less familiar with it

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You’re preaching of CAP being first-spawn, play the game mode that openly advertises it.