Current Meta: Spawn a Suchoi with KH-38. No one can stop these, its almost pointless to play the top tier BR bracket. Even deployed smoke without any effect. No ground based unit might reach them. Why was this weapons added like this?
Just a small snapshot, they killed much more. An MMO shouldn’t be like this. Without any counter and without any way to spoof these off you.
cause russia needs new op toys
The best part is the only AA with a chance of intercepting a few of these is Russian.
who wants to bet next update gaijin is gonna either add better russian CAS missile or a plane with 8 KH38MTs
Kh-38, Hammer, AGM-65, etc was already nerfed into the ground. It’s better to spawn 5 more tanks than it is to spawn CAS now.
@BACKRAGE44428 New? lol No where close to new.
@Alpharius11348
Said SPAA isn’t in the game.
Zero CAS can die to any SPAA in War Thunder, and F-15E’s ordnance can’t be intercepted either because there’s just too much.
best solution: dont play TT GRB
everything below 5.0 is so much fun ngl
But how can a MMO company like Gajin introduce something like this? Whats the point of pushing players away to play the game at this BR bracket? How fun is it to see your team swatted again and again. Its so quickly, like the whole team gets nuked in a blink of an eye. bam bam bam bam all dead. Seriously. Then you pop smoke, but KH-38 ofc gets you anyways.
Vice Verca, when Rus are with your team, you get barely any kills. You have like 2-3 Suchoi players who rack up most of the aviable player kills, while the rest of the team finds no one to fight.
yes that AA is in game
currently the pantsir is the only AA in game with a chance to intercept a few or even all of a volley of KH38s
on the f15e you arent mentioning that for gbu39 to be used you need to be at high altitude and slow because gaijin limits the release to mach 1 (idk if this is acurate for these but I know most US guided bombs are unlimited above 20000 feet and mach 1.4 bellow that)
when you are flying within the in game launch parameters you are very exposed to air and surface launched missiles if you are in range, and if you are not in their range all your ordinance is easy to avoid because of its long travel time.
Increase all guided weaponry to atleast a minimum of 1000 SP to spawn.
Remove the scouting SP reduction.
Force an AF spawn for all aircraft.
Just these 3 simple things will help the CAS issue by quite a lot. And they will help alot at low tier, since you won’t be able to bomb people instantly, with an alt advantage, and with a view of the entire battle.
This is where alot of the issue seems to lie. Russia is the only nation that has a chance (even if it isn’t very big) to counter CAS at top tier.
best part is that they nerfed almost all other AA when adding the pantsir
and the reasoning was that the Tor was underpreforming and it couldnt be good enough for russia despite being the top chinese aa for a few more years afterwards
How?
If AA can’t counter you, why wouldn’t you spawn CAS to claim your 3-6+ guaranteed kills.
Anyways, humvee SLAMRAAM when gaijin.
because he wants to argue and derail this thread like countless others
Oh, my post was hidded. What did I do wrong?
complained about russia being too strong
thats not allowed here
people probably spam reported it
I play top BR and it’s been chill.
There’s so few CAS new cause neither team wants to lose due to spawn point drain.
@Thodin
Cause Gaijin tested the AGM-65s on A-10 and players died, so they added them to supersonic jets and players kept dying despite it being extremely OP.
Then with that data they introduced Hammer, Kh-38, and PGM_3.
@Alpharius11348
High altitude is where you’re safe from Pantsir and it has a range of over 30km.
F-15E is OP, saying F-15E is not OP is saying Su-34 isn’t OP.
Everyone knows Pantsir is useless against top CAS.
@Ion_Protogen
970SP for 6 frags.
2nd spawn tank is 200, 3rd spawn is 300, 4th 400, and so on.
If you spawn 3 more times in tanks that’s 900SP. 6 frags in 6 more tanks is significantly easier than 2 sorties of CAS.
Why they dont just remove IOG from all AGMs is beyond me. They removed any semblence of FnF from the Brimstone for “balancing reasons” but they wont even consider a fairly reasonable nerf to the KH-38 (and the AASM and PGM)
AGM65 lose track when you simply press the smoke key. Also their speed and range is slow enough to deal with them.
KH’s are upper league. Mavericks not. You rarely see any other jets scoring alot kills tbh. Its just KH-38, they also weep helis off the map. KH’s are kind of diabolic.
just saying, top BR isnt everything
if you feel playing top tier is bad, then dont play it
you clearly havent learned the magic technique of moving when you see an f15e drop a bunch of SDBs
im not saying that f15e is useless, but it isnt the same as something with 6 KH38s where you just need to spawn, look at the ground and launch missiles to probably get 4 kills. then you can rearm and repeat. All because your missiles are fast enough that long range shots are consistent.
All IR missiles lose track, and you don’t know an IR missile is on you unless you look for one and pray you see it.
Kh-38 and Hammer are the best with Hammer being slight better, in a direct comparison.
In practice AGM-65s are as OP because they still out-range all SPAA in the game and they’re equipped to an aircraft that can fire 20 decoys into the enemy spawns that prevent the AGM-65s and F-15E from being engaged by the SPAA present.
Also your last point is an ad populum fallacy. Popularity does not make something more or less OP. The only reason you see more Su-34s is cause more people play them, and the smarter tactic is to choose not to bring CAS at all for a better winning chance.
And that means you can’t engage the F-15E as well as hope you get out of the entire spawn area before the bombs hit.
Kh-38s have the same IR seeker as AGM-65 in-game currently.
But not all have precise IOG.
