People critiquing the game & having their own opinions is not a bad thing.
I’m not sure why everyone is trying so hard to claim that’s bad.
Well, it depends… whole formation eventually stops spiraling but each individual dart spins/spirals till the impact.
Depends on the opinion… your are somewhere on the “Earth is Flat…” level, with zero evidence.
For example here. Rotor blades and rotor heads does not even have a hit box, as you can check yourself in protection analysis. So only way how to destroy them is to shoot rest of the helicopter which has the hit box.
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Yes sorry, I should clarify the individual darts spin, and that’s how they also guide themselves.
No, I’m at Earth is a spheroid.
Protection analysis doesn’t work for any rotor blades.
I test flew the Ka-50, touched the watch tower to confirm they have their hitbox and… they have their hitbox.
Big shocker I know.
It does not work because it is not there. Collision, sure bus collision box is not the same as the hit box as we can all clearly see for examples on barrels. Rotors are the opposite, has the collision box but does not have the hit box.
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If that’s the case, that sounds like a “flaw” with all helicopters.
And I put “flaw” in quotations, cause hitting a helicopter blade is far more difficult than hitting the hull itself.
It might be hard to hit individual blade, but missile blast would not have issue with it, like here.
https://twitter.com/region776/status/1684029103148789760?s=20
Note excellent work of MAW.
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Thank you. This will allow me to look into these things easier.
Update: Tested using Pantsir missiles against helicopters.
All kept their rotor blades after being hit.
None seem to have damage models.
Video of “Dead” Ka50 flying and fighting for two minutes after being cut in half
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Issue is, Ka-50 doesnt need a tail to fly, because of its twin rotors. So it “can” fly with no tail. Though I think the fact that they added a heli like that, when there were other options, is kinda crazy.
But all helis have a rediculous amount of tankyness. Nailed a Alouette with the a 120mm shell, head-on (he was starring straight at me) through the pilot. It shrugged it off with only a crit hit, took a second shell to kill. Even IF i missed the pilot. The shell still should have passed straight through the engine. No way it could have survived.
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That’s a bug with all helicopters.
It’s a new bug where it’s not forcing people out of their helicopters when dead.
That’s not a valid excuse when they’re not modeling the downsides of the twin rotor design. Any damage to that super complex mast would be devastating IRL, more so than a single rotor.
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Oh yeah, not disagreeing. But there are 2 parts to that video
- A Ka-50 flying with no tail, is accurate
but
- Ka-50 ONLY loosing its tail after a direct hit from a ADATS is the issue. But I dont think its exclusive to the Ka-50, though it certainly is one of the tanky-est. I think all Helis have way too much survivability. They can shrug off damage that should have torn them to peices
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Can confirm with tests today that all rotors stay in-tact from many helicopter platforms.
But, Pantsir killed every helicopter I tested.
ADATS might have an explosives issue as well.
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Someone over the Britain forum thread, was describing issues with the Stormer HVM that very much sounded like Helis surviving hits that they should not have and it on average was taking 2x Starstreaks to get a heli kill
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Thank you for the information, Morvran, I appreciate it.
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Theres the thread for it
- A Ka-50 flying with no tail, is accurate
Yeah that’s fine, the main problem is that it took so many hits after losing the tail. 1/5th of that damage would have blown any other heli to pieces, regardless of whether it was a brand new heli or a ‘zombie’ (dead heli whose pilot isn’t kicked out)
Maybe when ground is decompressed, and superior helicopters to Ka-50 go further ahead with SPAA remaining where they are, things will be better off in general.