General Japanese & JASDF General Discussion

I’d like to advertise a squadron. Our squadron heavily focuses on Japanese and other Asian military equipment. We have an affiliated and very active Discord as well! We do a lot of research regarding Japanese aircraft as well, especially the F-2.

Some community members are a part of this squadron, such as @MAUSWAFFE and @WreckingAres283.

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Mainly Japanese and South-East Asian.

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Is there a discord too?

Yea, DM for invite.

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Sent. I’ve also applied to squadron

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Ooohhh yeaaaaah.
Now we wait 2 years for it to be added

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Just noticed that the report for the GBU-8s for the F-16AJ got fordwarded 9 days ago.
Hopefully we will get them next update.

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I have made the list of “CAS line” for Japan. All of this planes can be added as Strike aircraft. Information was taken mainly from JP wiki because it is just fan-made list
Some planes are controversial but there was reasons to add any vehicles
Of course it is not full but enough to show that Japan can get a little more than one Ki-109

Spoiler

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There are 6 versions total of the Fuji. The 3 prototypes and the 3 variants of the finished product which IMO can potentially replace the R2Y2 V2 and V3 from the TT.

Less likely to see in game: One can hope
-T1S1 Jet Prototype (7.3Br)
-T1K1 Jet Prototype (7.3Br) was inspired and based on T-33 under licensed production in Kawasaki
-T1F1 Jet Prototype (7.3Br)

More likely to see in game: They are overdo and should of been in game LONG AGO
-Fuji T-1A (British Engine) (8.0Br or 7.7)
-Fuji T-1B (Weaker Japanese Engine) (8.0Br or 7.7)
-Fuji T-1C (improved Japanese Engine) (8.0Br or 7.7)

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Here is my critique on this chart

Ki-45 Hei: Can also give the Ki-45 Otsu (maybe the Ko) a bombload as well to compliment the 37mm

Ki-115 & Kikka Early: I unfortunately cannot see either of these added since it’s largest bombloads is not large enough to take out a base and you don’t get the multiple bomb load options that lets say the M6A1-K gets

Ki–102 Otsu: BR could be raised to 3.7 but only if it’s moved to Tier III

T-2: Should be added on the list since Trainer aircraft when they do see combat are always used in the Ground Attack or CAS role

There is a few aircraft that is missing on the list that includes

  • D3Y Myojo - BR 2.7: Trainer Aircraft armed with 2 engine mounted 20mm’s and a bombload up to 800kg
  • Mansyu Ki-71 - BR 3.0: Proposed evolution of the Ki-51 with improved firepower and bombload, didn’t pass the prototype stage
  • Toyo FD-25 Defender - BR- 2.7 (Air), 3.3 (Ground): Early Postwar COIN Aircraft built in Japan, used mainly by SEA Nations, can use the same rockets that the Swiss Hunter and Israeli Spitfires use (up to 32) or 40 FFAR rockets, it’s slow though and only has 2 30cals as it’s offensive weapon
  • Mitsubishi MU-2K - BR 5.7: Postwar Utulity Aircraft equipped with 2 M3 Brownings, Dumb or Napalm bombs or FFAR Rocketpods
  • S-2F Tracker BR 4.7: Early Postwar Marine Patrol Aircraft, armed with bombs, depth charges, HVAR Rockets and torps
  • FS-T-2 Kai - BR 10.0: An intermediate aircraft between the T-2 & F-1
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Thank you for critique of this line. My main idea was creating the “CAS line”, not list all planes what can be added as strike planes. Also BRs is very approximately thing

It is but I am not sure that all 6 is needed. I wanted to add 2 T-1 but with as much differences as possible that’s why I took T-1B-10 and T-1A, the plane with weaker engine abd the plane with better engine and missiles mounted. Also T-1B-10 is the plane used “Improved engine” from T-1C. Original T-1B looks too weak as for me

Yeah, I just remember how tester188 on old forum shared that some Ki-45 Hei was officially called “strike airplanes” if it take 37mm gun. That’s why I decided to add only Hei version but other is possible too

It can be added or can be not. Anyway we has Ar 234 or Canberra with no guns

BR is approximately but yeah, 3 rank is needed

I was thinking about it and it can be added or can be not. The most funny is that T-2 has more Air-to-Air functions than Air-to-Ground. It can get aim point in shooting to aircrafts for example.

Haven’t known about this aircraft. Checked and very doubt tbh. Japanese wiki says only about 2 7.7mm and some 30-60kg bombs. There are some problems

  1. For what you need to have 2 20mm on trainer? As for example A6M2-K IRL had only 1-2 7.7mm guns for trainings. But here is dive bomber with 20mm?
  2. Is it even possible to synchronise the Oerlikon type 20mm?
  3. D3Y would be dive bomber in WT as D3A, not CAS
  4. The only source on EN wiki is Francillon which is not very good

Yeah, forgot about this one during writing. Well it can be added in line or as good premium

I am not sure about this plane. So modern equipment in so bad performance platform. With it’s speed it is 1.0 BR but weapon is as minimum from 6.0. I doubt that it will be added

Yeah, forgot about this one

The same as MU-2K

Why it is on 10.0? FS-T-2 Kai is the whole copy of F-1 because it was F-1 prototype. The same FCS, same armament, same RWR, same everything. Why should it be lower? Also this plane is not needed into line because F-1 is here already but I really hopped that it will be premium plane, not T-2 Early

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Mizuno Shinryu - Wikipedia Found this very interesting, strange air vehicle. Japanese prototype design is very nice. Would love to see unfinished, canceled japanese planes in the game. But thats just a dream. ;D

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Its the same like Ki-200 būt instead of has 30mm Ho-5 cannons. This could fill up the Rank V.

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Specifically, they wanted to acquire FA.2. This deal never went through and as far as I’m aware Thai crews never actually flew the FA.2, so it isn’t valid. They threw around the idea of acquiring harriers from pretty much every possible source but as far as I’m aware only the FA.2 Sea Harriers were serious.

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I want the Ki-202

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It can be added or can be not. Anyway we has Ar 234 or Canberra with no guns

Bad comparisons since like i iterated in the first post the Ki-115 & Kikka (Early) only has 1 bomb drop while the Ar-234 B-2 has 3 bomb drops (3x 500kg or 1x 1000kg and 2x 250kg bombs), Back in the day the Ar-234 B-2 can take out a base no problems at all while a single 800kg cannot even destroy a base in one go you need at least two 800kg bombs to take out a base. Canberra Mk.2 is an even worse comparison to the Ki-115 & Kikka (Early) since the Canberra is a dedicated bomber that has no problem taking out bases and in this patch was made even stronger by the fact it can carry 2 4000lbs bombs

I am not sure about this plane. So modern equipment in so bad performance platform. With it’s speed it is 1.0 BR but weapon is as minimum from 6.0. I doubt that it will be added

The Israeli Spitfire Mk.IXc would like a word with you in regards to that. The FD-25 Defender is a COIN/Ground Attack aircraft not a fighter so performance on it’s own let alone the main metric should not determine it’s BR placement. Finally speed isn’t everything in COIN/Ground Attack, there is other factors in play

Why it is on 10.0? FS-T-2 Kai is the whole copy of F-1 because it was F-1 prototype.

It can still be added as a Event or Squadron vehicle (leaning towards the latter), the only reason why the FS-T2 Kai seems to be a copy of the F-1 is because the F-1 ingame is of the Early Configuration. The F-1’s in the Later Configurations cannot be added since it there are two options; not give the F-1 flares but either make it be too OP or completely useless or give the F-1 flares but at the cost of angering the Historical Accuracy Purists

In terms of other Japanese aircraft that can be added as “Strike” aircraft i can’t really think of anything else. Maybe the P1Y1c (P1Y1 mod.11 Hei) and P1Y2-S but that may be stretching it. The Fuji MT-X could be another option that isn’t a great option either since it was only existed as a mockup. Finally there are the Ki-79b (Ki-79 Otsu) and B5M though lower tiers aren’t really lacking in CAS options. The A6M7 can be split into a couple of variants too as well as adding in the A6M8 and re-classifying the already existing A6M5 Hei & A6M6c into “Strike” Aircraft

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Not sure where but G8N1 seem like having a bug where the wing structure isn’t strong enough. 1 hit at the wing will make the whole wing become metal structure and lose control, can somebody send a bug report of this issues?

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JMSDF_TBM-3W
This could be good addition to cas line maybe?

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TBM-3M

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Found a video about all japanese jet and rocket powered aircraft projects.

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