They existed specifically in the form of various components being built, as well as a shared prototype for practical tests.
The ATD-X/X-2 did flight tests for the project, while other components such as engines, weapons bays, radar or even structural designs were prototyped separately and specific to the respective design of the time.
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ATD-X/X-2 prototype for flight tests
Full scale model for RAM and RCS testing
XF9-1 engine
XVN3-1 TVC
Center fuselage
Weapons bay
Radar
As for being armed, the armament for the most part existed, though the ducted AAM-4 was only prototyped itself, also never entering service. The weapons bays for the armament were also tested.
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Ducted AAM-4 during testing
So basically they were built, flown and armed, but all of this in many parts rather than full on complete aircraft.
I’d still see aircraft like these as necessary though in the future, and not only for Japan. Otherwise the top ranks will end up rather stale with endless F-35 vs F-35.
Since these are “unfinished prototypes” by definition of having vehicle specific parts completed, these fall under the same category as (for example) the Yak-141 does, but fill a more important role in the context of the game.
Ah that’s really interesting. But yeah it does feel like it has more chances to become reality in war thunder since it did go through a decent amount of testing.
Honestly the unappealing factor of nations that aren’t US, China and USSR is that everybody will eventually have F-35s and it would feel pretty stale. This could surely help adding diversity.
The JNAAM project has been completed; it was not canceled, so it will not be restarted. This budget is allocated for the development of Japan’s next-generation medium-range air-to-air missile and is not part of a joint development project. The seeker of the AAM-4B, which was successfully miniaturized during the JNAAM project, will be utilized. 次期中距離空対空誘導弾
As I know project was frozen because UK couldn’t be able to produce seekers by themself and in fact project was stopped. It wasn’t finished because in this case they would show it or use it on the aircrafts because it wasn’t any type of scientist research but developing the actually missile for air planes
If you say about this missile it looks like another project created only by Japan
the JNAAM was merely a program for practicing Japan-UK joint research, and it was never intended for adoption or mass production from the beginning. I couldn’t find any mention in Japanese sources about the UK’s inability to produce the seeker on their own, so I can’t comment on that. The JNAAM project concluded with the successful miniaturization of the AAM-4B seeker and the identification and proper management of high-risk areas in the Japan-UK joint development. There is no possibility of it being restarted. Additionally, there is currently no new international joint development of an AAM in which Japan is participating. JNAAM
Probably I do mistake about this project. but it is little bit strange why do you need to do joint project with another country if you only need to “make seeker smaller”
Anyway at the moment there is the Japan-UK-Italy air to air missile is under development
It’s to strengthen the cooperation between Japan and the UK, and the practice with JNAAM later led to the GCAP.
You may be misunderstanding ‘the next-generation medium-range air-to-air guided missile that will be equipped on the next-generation fighter jointly developed by Japan, the UK, and Italy’ as ‘a missile jointly developed by Japan, the UK, and Italy.’ To be precise, it means that ‘Japan will develop a new missile to be equipped on the GCAP.’
So, it’s likely that the UK and Italy will each independently develop something new, or perhaps equip their fighters with the Meteor missile or something equivalent.
I’d like to advertise a squadron. Our squadron heavily focuses on Japanese and other Asian military equipment. We have an affiliated and very active Discord as well! We do a lot of research regarding Japanese aircraft as well, especially the F-2.
I have made the list of “CAS line” for Japan. All of this planes can be added as Strike aircraft. Information was taken mainly from JP wiki because it is just fan-made list
Some planes are controversial but there was reasons to add any vehicles
Of course it is not full but enough to show that Japan can get a little more than one Ki-109
There are 6 versions total of the Fuji. The 3 prototypes and the 3 variants of the finished product which IMO can potentially replace the R2Y2 V2 and V3 from the TT.
Less likely to see in game: One can hope
-T1S1 Jet Prototype (7.3Br)
-T1K1 Jet Prototype (7.3Br) was inspired and based on T-33 under licensed production in Kawasaki
-T1F1 Jet Prototype (7.3Br)
More likely to see in game: They are overdo and should of been in game LONG AGO
-Fuji T-1A (British Engine) (8.0Br or 7.7)
-Fuji T-1B (Weaker Japanese Engine) (8.0Br or 7.7)
-Fuji T-1C (improved Japanese Engine) (8.0Br or 7.7)
Ki-45 Hei: Can also give the Ki-45 Otsu (maybe the Ko) a bombload as well to compliment the 37mm
Ki-115 & Kikka Early: I unfortunately cannot see either of these added since it’s largest bombloads is not large enough to take out a base and you don’t get the multiple bomb load options that lets say the M6A1-K gets
Ki–102 Otsu: BR could be raised to 3.7 but only if it’s moved to Tier III
T-2: Should be added on the list since Trainer aircraft when they do see combat are always used in the Ground Attack or CAS role
There is a few aircraft that is missing on the list that includes
D3Y Myojo - BR 2.7: Trainer Aircraft armed with 2 engine mounted 20mm’s and a bombload up to 800kg
Mansyu Ki-71 - BR 3.0: Proposed evolution of the Ki-51 with improved firepower and bombload, didn’t pass the prototype stage
Toyo FD-25 Defender - BR- 2.7 (Air), 3.3 (Ground): Early Postwar COIN Aircraft built in Japan, used mainly by SEA Nations, can use the same rockets that the Swiss Hunter and Israeli Spitfires use (up to 32) or 40 FFAR rockets, it’s slow though and only has 2 30cals as it’s offensive weapon
Mitsubishi MU-2K - BR 5.7: Postwar Utulity Aircraft equipped with 2 M3 Brownings, Dumb or Napalm bombs or FFAR Rocketpods
S-2F Tracker BR 4.7: Early Postwar Marine Patrol Aircraft, armed with bombs, depth charges, HVAR Rockets and torps
FS-T-2 Kai - BR 10.0: An intermediate aircraft between the T-2 & F-1
Thank you for critique of this line. My main idea was creating the “CAS line”, not list all planes what can be added as strike planes. Also BRs is very approximately thing
It is but I am not sure that all 6 is needed. I wanted to add 2 T-1 but with as much differences as possible that’s why I took T-1B-10 and T-1A, the plane with weaker engine abd the plane with better engine and missiles mounted. Also T-1B-10 is the plane used “Improved engine” from T-1C. Original T-1B looks too weak as for me
Yeah, I just remember how tester188 on old forum shared that some Ki-45 Hei was officially called “strike airplanes” if it take 37mm gun. That’s why I decided to add only Hei version but other is possible too
It can be added or can be not. Anyway we has Ar 234 or Canberra with no guns
BR is approximately but yeah, 3 rank is needed
I was thinking about it and it can be added or can be not. The most funny is that T-2 has more Air-to-Air functions than Air-to-Ground. It can get aim point in shooting to aircrafts for example.
Haven’t known about this aircraft. Checked and very doubt tbh. Japanese wiki says only about 2 7.7mm and some 30-60kg bombs. There are some problems
For what you need to have 2 20mm on trainer? As for example A6M2-K IRL had only 1-2 7.7mm guns for trainings. But here is dive bomber with 20mm?
Is it even possible to synchronise the Oerlikon type 20mm?
D3Y would be dive bomber in WT as D3A, not CAS
The only source on EN wiki is Francillon which is not very good
Yeah, forgot about this one during writing. Well it can be added in line or as good premium
I am not sure about this plane. So modern equipment in so bad performance platform. With it’s speed it is 1.0 BR but weapon is as minimum from 6.0. I doubt that it will be added
Yeah, forgot about this one
The same as MU-2K
Why it is on 10.0? FS-T-2 Kai is the whole copy of F-1 because it was F-1 prototype. The same FCS, same armament, same RWR, same everything. Why should it be lower? Also this plane is not needed into line because F-1 is here already but I really hopped that it will be premium plane, not T-2 Early
