Japan, Sweden, Isreal, China & and possibly the USA are all lacking severely in top tier air

Gripen ng was a testbed. Its a heavily modified gripen d. Vixen radar, 8 payload capacity and same engine as e.

Yes but there has been a few NG’s aside from the D model.

No, you are talking about gripen e prototypes. There was only one gripen ng, which was the heavily modified D. Tail number 39-7

Yeah you’re right i was confusing it for 6002, though that doesn’t explain the Brazilian expo with a single seater Gripen with the name NG

Israel has some trainer aircrafts and prototypes like the IAI Lavi that we dont have ingame yet.
but Im sure Israel doesnt have more planes for top tier after the F-15I and F-16I, except the F-35I.

We just need armaments to make our planes competitive at top tier like python 4 or i-derby for kfirs and such

Gonna be waiting for everyone to get those missiles then since i doubt gaijin would add them to one nation exclusively for air

Gripen ng is a concept and pitch sales name. When brazil bought the ng, they were actually buying the production model, not the testbed.

We should be getting the I-Derby ER for air platforms, performs less range than aim120 but have better turn at close ranges. Its similar like the MICA. But yeah little more range than Derby

That’s where subtrees come in. Japan is in the same situation.

Issue with the Python 4 specifically is that it is too good for current IRCCM missiles but too bad for next gen IRCCM missiles.

I think i-derby would be fine tho

Subtrees with french (greece) planes damn.

I wouldnt mind a python 4 nerfed just to get that juicy 40G overload like china and russia. And for next gen missiles like aim9x we have the p5

Cyprus don’t use any Russian Aircraft. Only aircraft they use is Embraer ERJ-135 (VIP Transport) and AIr Tractor AT-802 (Fire-Fighting).

  • china can get a lot of stuff like, su30mkk with rvv-sd (r77-1), j10c, j11BG aesa, j15t
  • sweeden can get the gripen E, other than that idk what they can get
  • japan can get su30mkm, f18D, maybe south korea t-50 or f15k, indonisia rafale.

but the usa dont need anything more, maybe the super hornet and the block 72 f16 (idk why israel got it first) but that it

oh yeah my bad, got confused

first batch (3 Aircrafts) hasnt been delivered yet, presumed early 2026, they’ve just been spotted in France

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I still cant believe gaijin slapped an AESA radar and BOL pods on the MSIP, raised its BR and called it a day. talk about Dead on Arrival, didnt even give NCTR in the cockpit

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i mean we literally have THE rafale currently in the game, the future of TT aircraft is EW, a good example being F22/F35 stealth capabilaties so honestly a Jas-39E x Super hornet drop next dec patch pushing top tier in that direction drop doesnt look to impossible to me, similar to the last dec patch. but idk i just started playing in sept lol

16 AMRAAMS??? All I can see is 12 when I looked it up, and with EPAWSS, I can’t see any evidence of it increasing AAM pylons/ capacity. BAE describes it more as an Electronic Warfare Suite with upgrades to radar, pilot systems and both electronic and missile countermeasures. Nothing about missile capacity, just EW stuff.

(Also, it probably wouldn’t be better in game, but I’d rather have the F16XL or something like that)

I think Gripen is likely its just Gripen without EW is like adding a F22 without stealth mechanics. The vehicle was built around a specific suatem and the Gripens have been dated since the EFT/Rafale came to the game a year too early

Gripen E without EW is kinda already barely breaking to call it 14.3 worthy given its flight performance advantage is worse maneuverability for better acceleration and top speed. Its basically a Golden Eagle equivalent at that point without Arexis.

What makes the Gripen dated is the horrifically modeled Radar that it has had since day one. It has aged well otherwise, surprisingly enough. Still, would absolutely take a Gripen E/NG for the 7 AMRAAMs it can carry alone

Meh, personal preference i guess, Gripen imo is mid, but TBF im a Su enjoyer, Gripen just feels gross to fly, like it kinda turns but it just doesn’t really have anything special, like a meh f16 i guess, i know its technically better but it just feels bad. Honestly prefer the Draken if i had to choose a favorite swedish delta for just how it feels