Jagdtiger and Tortoise at 6.7?

[AllNationEnjoyer]

@rookie 007

250 mm armor without weakspots is too strong. It’ll be workable at 7.0, terrible but workable,

I thought this topic wasn’t about the jagdtiger?

No thanks, its fine at 6.7. This post just tells me you are too inexperienced at this BR.

[McPlopish]

if the whole team is pounding on it’s front and noone can figure out how to shoot the right place, yes, then its hard to kill.

It got 80 mm armor on the side and back, even angled shots can kill it easily.

[ULQ_LOVER]

@McPlopish

if the whole team is pounding on it’s front and noone can figure out how to shoot the right place, yes, then its hard to kill.

It just means that they don’t really know what they are doing.

[rookie_0071]

Can you read after that? Multiple posts after that one. Nope. I’m gonna pick this post and yepp I’m gonna point this stuff out. TORTOISE AND JAGDTIGER AT 6.7? that’s the topic of the post. I’m hitting my limit of patience here lol.

[rookie_0071]

It was sinai map and it’s really very easy to comment like a know-it-all when u don’t know what happened in the game. All it takes is: type “skill issue” and sent… Haha I’m so cool and skilled. No you are not.

[rookie_0071]

Hard to do the flanking stuff when you can’t get on the side yeah. I agree the side is easy to pen but that’s in a vacuum. If you can get you allies to cover flanks then it’s a different story yeah?

[ULQ_LOVER]

If You can’t kill Jagdtiger with whole team trying to, then that is a skill issue.

[rookie_0071]

Brother do you know that hyperbole means? Have you study basic literature. You win. Yeah you are correct. You were always correct yeah stoopid me. My bad my bad

[ULQ_LOVER]

So enlighten us, what vehicle were You using to fight against it so You belive that it should be on higher B.R.?

[rookie_0071]

Does that matter?

[rookie_0071]

U r getting something wrong here. It is not a whine post after one game of getting stomped by a jagdtiger coz of my skill issue. I’m not a german main u see. It is an objective comparison. It was never about me facing the jagdtiger and then crying about it. I can deal with those things albeit with difficulty. It is about the disparity between the tortoise and jagdtiger.

[ULQ_LOVER]

So Tortoise having faster withdrawal speed, twice as good reload is so bad that it should be lower?

[rookie_0071]

Have you even read the comments lol. Do i really have to list all of the stuff for you specifically. Nah not interested. U r right. Ur win. I’m wrong. Good?

[ULQ_LOVER]

You mean the main post suggesting moving Jagdtiger to 7.0 when already vehicles at 5.7 don’t struggle with penning it frontally?

Or are we talking about this comment?

@rookie 007

Umm dear sir, as i said there are only about 2 choices, moving jagdtiger up or moving tortoise down, for people who thing tortoise is fine at 6.7 i suggested moving jagdtiger to 7.0. this post is not complaining about SPECIFICALLY the jagdtiger (my god do i really have to explain this, these germans…) I’m suggesting the tortoise and jagdtiger should be separated by br as they don’t beling together. And to be very fair, just as anything can kill a tortoise at it’s br, it will still be fair for jagdtiger to be 7.0, it’ll still be a better tortoise at that br, u jest need to be careful of flanks. Idk why you are so pixxed of like i touched u inappropriately or something. Again I’m only concerned with the tortoise you can take your jagdtiger’s cannon barrel home and pole dance with it, heck even use it “appropriately”, I don’t care. Just please shut up. You are just goin on and on about facing heatfs, and never provided any objective points. Heatfs makes everyone suffer equally.

“It can kill anything it sees”, is not to be taken lightly.

If yes, then again:

@ULQ_LOVER

So Tortoise having faster withdrawal speed, twice as good reload is so bad that it should be lower?

[rookie_0071]

If reverse speed and reload was it’s main attractions it should have been designated a light tank. It’s main focus is armor and firepower.

@rookie 007

Totoise is literally throwing rocks at tanks and have gun depression to throw rocks effectively and a faster reload to throw rocks faster

Firepower: inferior to jagdtiger

@rookie 007

still has counterplay there by almost anything because of it’s cupola and flat mg port and mantlet, the transmission is also relatively easy to disable.

Armor: inferior to jagdtiger

Speed: inferior to jagdtiger ( jagdtiger has better power to weight ratio and better top speed)

[ULQ_LOVER]

@rookie 007

If reverse speed and reload was it’s main attractions it should have been designated a light tank. It’s main focus is armor and firepower.

So You say that You are using tortoise in a wrong way and want it to be like Jagdtiger as You can’t use its attributes, got it.

@rookie 007

Firepower: inferior to jagdtiger

I would disagree especially that it has twice as fast reload.

@rookie 007

Armor: inferior to jagdtiger

That is why it can reverse almost twice as fast.

Let me guess, You haven’t played Jagdtiger?

[rookie_0071]

I have not played the tortoise either, ur point being?

[ULQ_LOVER]

Oh, now I get it.

[rookie_0071]

Good for you

[RunaDacino]

isn’t the gimmick of WW2 tank destroyers that…

1. They got ridiculous firepower for their BR
2. They got ridiculous armour for their BR (casemate) or ridiculous mobility (wolverines/hellcats/similar) with obvious drawbacks for both?

Given this assumption about the gimmick of tank destroyers… I don’t see a justification for moving a casemate higher than the medium/heavy tank its chassis is based upon.