Jagdtiger and Tortoise at 6.7?

It does act up quite often hitting fuel tanks and what not unlike aphe which is so freaking unrealistic

I mean when the entire german team takes the exact same road in the middle of Middle East it is, I killed a dozen tiger 1s without moving just ahead of the point I was defending.

Why are you saying you aren’t targeting the jagdtiger, when you are explicitly asking for the Jagdtiger to be moved up. You’re the first person I’ve seen about moving the Jagdtiger up. Its a slow casemate with almost no mobility. Its only good for being a moving fortress in urban maps. Sure it can kill anything it sees. But 50cal will ruin a Jagdtiger’s day, or just shoot LFP and get a mobility kill.

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I’m surprised it managed to live this long without getting bombed lol

Umm dear sir, as i said there are only about 2 choices, moving jagdtiger up or moving tortoise down, for people who thing tortoise is fine at 6.7 i suggested moving jagdtiger to 7.0. this post is not complaining about SPECIFICALLY the jagdtiger (my god do i really have to explain this, these germans…) I’m suggesting the tortoise and jagdtiger should be separated by br as they don’t beling together. And to be very fair, just as anything can kill a tortoise at it’s br, it will still be fair for jagdtiger to be 7.0, it’ll still be a better tortoise at that br, u jest need to be careful of flanks. Idk why you are so pixxed of like i touched u inappropriately or something. Again I’m only concerned with the tortoise you can take your jagdtiger’s cannon barrel home and pole dance with it, heck even use it “appropriately”, I don’t care. Just please shut up. You are just goin on and on about facing heatfs, and never provided any objective points. Heatfs makes everyone suffer equally.

“It can kill anything it sees”, is not to be taken lightly.

No… it wouldn’t be… because the jagdtiger is already mediocre at 6.7…

making that real apparent with how many times you compare it to the jagdtiger specifically and keep suggesting the jagdtiger go up… just stop talking about it if you aren’t wanting to draw attention to it

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Well that’s the point of the post isn’t it? I’m comparing the two to show that tortoise doesn’t belong in the same br bracket at the jagdtiger. how can i only talk about the tortoise and show you that there is something much much superior at the same BR? “Ohh but u can get flanked in the jagdtiger”, then you are not positioned properly, like yeahs it’s a given you need proper positioning in casemates, if you are getting flanked then you were not aware or too far pushed up, sometimes it’s unavoidable yes but using it as an argument is plain stupid. The guy above said .50 can ruin ur life, but its is true for every casemate af far as i can recall. As for the transmission shot issue tortoise has even weaker armor there. Everyone is just like “oh it’s not good at 7.0 coz i can feel it”. It has literally everything better. (Now I AM going to argue about it moving up to 7.0 coz now i’m pixxed off) And if you say it’s mediocre at 6.7 then pray tell WTF is tortoise doing at 6.7???

Ok but do you realize BRs are too compressed to make comparisons like this not possible where one vehicle is just worse at the same BR?

As for the rest of the comment, I am not comparing them at all, you are. I’m simply telling you that you should stop bringing it up if you don’t want to be rightfully told you’re being silly by suggesting the jagdtiger is at all even a good 6.7 let alone would be viable at 7.0.

I presume you sit very far back away from objectives?

BR compression… learn what it is please

Umm if it was slightly better then I won’t mind but… MUCH better cannon albeit slow reload, but APHE is a big factor (aphe nations don’t realise how buggy solid shot is sometimes)… Much faster albeit slow in reverse… Much better armor (no counterargument here)… Practically no weakspots on an already strong as heck armor… Makes for a pretty deadly combination imo…

Also tortoise is also suggish in turning, you literally have to stop and neutral steer which is still just okay turn rate… Totoise is literally throwing rocks at tanks and have gun depression to throw rocks effectively and a faster reload to throw rocks faster. BALANCED!!

no because of that exact reason… jagdtiger’s gun is only “good” at killing one guy, it has too long of a downtime between shots.

there is no need to compare the two, tortoise would be fine at 6.3 since things like t28 are, you just bring unneeded criticism of the jadgtiger which itself is very mediocre for 6.7

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Thank you for agreeing with me dear sir, I’ll leave your jagdtiger alone for now but if anyone else brings something up i might have to use it again. I’m sorry for pushing your jagdtiger around like that :)

are you trying to be friendly and teasing or are you trying to be snippy

Nah I’m just happy, I’m quite friendly while I’m feeling good. Complete opposite when I’m frustrated lol.

Well I’m not good at reading intent from text so that’s why I ask

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the Jagdtiger would be near unplayable at 7+.
The only really strongpoint it has which its great frontal armor would be useless, (hell i just killed a jagdtiger frontally with a M41A1 which is 6.3), and you will just have a slowass block on metal for target practice for all the modern stuff.

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I have killed a jagdtiger in a 5.3 challenger does that mean it should go down? 250 mm armor without weakspots is too strong. It’ll be workable at 7.0, terrible but workable, just like the tortoise at 6.7, coz as it stands almost everything can pen a tortoise, but can you say that about a jagdtiger? No. But a better solution would be moving the tortoise down to it’s previous br of 6.3, it still has counterplay there by almost anything because of it’s cupola and flat mg port and mantlet, the transmission is also relatively easy to disable. Moving the tortoise down will make it a bit competitive while the jagdtiger can stay where it is for all i care. Tortoise is kinda a breath of fresh air of different playstyle gone stale on a terrible tech tree where vehicles range from average to unplayable. I just want a fun tank that i can fall back to in rough times, which the current tortoise is really not. It can face 7.7 stuff which it has absolutely no business facing coz even in a down tier things can pen it reliably so u might as well be a free kill with ur solid shot of mediocre 250 pen at 7.7.

you just proved my point, thank you.

The Jagdtiger isn’t that hard to kill if you know how and raising it’s BR would make take away the only thing it got going for it, it’s frontal armor.

and i fully agree with you about the Tortoise, unless it got a downtier, that thing is having a rough time and it should have a little degrees in BR. i love TDs but i never touch that thing, it just feel like punishment most of the time.

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Nonono… Killing and easily killing are 2 different things. It took the whole team pounding, taking tracks and barrels to kill that thing. And as per your statements i can kill a 12.0 mbt in a tier 1 spg… Ahh it’s not that hard to kill mbts it needs balancing let’s move them to 1.0. But I’ll give u that, jagdtiger is barely staying at 6.7 but it is staying for now until decompression hits.

Also armor is not the only thing it’s got, it’s got a massive 600+ g TNT shell with 270+ pen that only talks about vaporising stuff. Armor and firepower combo is pretty deadly. Barely 6.7 but its stays for now ig.

You mean killing the Jagdtiger?