yes but this is about the more spammed out annoyance
the 120 feels underwhelming still. not a match for the phoenix imo
r-darters are derbies
Because it’s a premium. Just wait until you get to 11.0, where all of your deaths will be from F4S and MiG 23s. Doesn’t mean they’re good, just means they’re spammed.
The F-5A or C should not be dying to any PL-5B unless the player is unable to see them.
The F-5s will beat the J-7D in a dogfight.
yeah J7 is good for boom and zooming them
just one?
I NEED MOREEEEEEEEE
It often is when you get into merge and turnfight.
you dont have to dogfight if you dont initiate. the same way you can dodge a pl5b by being aware of your surroundings you can dodge a dogfight by simply being aware of enemies around you. as long as you dont get an f5 on your back he cant do anything to force the fight
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Just because you can’t handle it it doesn’t mean it isn’t OP.
I have not played a single plane outside of the F-4C and AV-8C that lose to an F-5 in a dogfight.
Su-22 wins when unswept, F-8E/U both win very easily, A-10A and A-7 win.
Mig-21 beats all of these, so I don’t see how a J-7D could lose to an F-5.
No offence, but this claim sounds a bit similar to the one which Alvis told us that F-14A wasn’t broken when it was 11.3 because he could easily kill them in his Mirage IIIC. :|
Maybe we need to cross-check between personal experiences which we had.
As long as the result of air combat has many factors which can lead to completely different outputs.
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When I say they beat an F-5 in a dogfight, I mean a 1v1, both planes undamaged, in the very rare circumstance that a Mig-23 doesn’t intrude in and ruin the whole thing.
Also I’m not saying I’ve never lost to an F-5 in a dogfight, or never won in an F-5 against those planes, I’m saying that whenever I play those planes, I know I can turn sharper than the F-5 at a maintainable speed.
I see J-7D, I put my funny green box on him and fire the two red rings of sadness. He is eliminated. So hard to fight
He must be dumb and thats explain why moved down to 10.7 even it was already decent at 11.0.
Average Rank VII premium jet spammers.
Exactly, it’s a premium spam, you’re going to see a lot of them and die to them. Should I cry on the forums and demand the F4S and the F-18 be moved to 13.0 since I die to them whenever I play 11.7-12.3? No, why? Because those planes are not that good, they just eliminate me more often because everyone is using them. China doesn’t have any premiums at 11.7+, so the best they can do is spam 10.3 lobbies and harass people there. It doesn’t mean they’re good, it just means they will always be in the 10.3 BR range.
Lol this is bait
Which is not that big of a problem, because a plane like F4EJ or F4E has a bad radar so it limits the scenarios it can even lock you up, you don’t have to do a 360’ scan with verticals cuz you know the ground clutter is doing 90% of the work for you at this tier.
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Most of the time I am the last one left on the team, so I am not often killed by the “Premium spammer” you are thinking of.
I don’t know about F-4S but, F/A-18A should go higher BR, if compare to other aircrafts. Also F/A-18C Early should also go higher BRs with AIM-9Ms because would be unplayable at 13.0 with current loadouts.
The reason they don’t move to higher BRs is that, while good in their own right, they need to take compression into account. However, there are several vehicles in the jet BR that don’t justify the current BR even when compression is taken into account.
Some of the ones I can think of off the top of my head are MiG-15bis ISh, CL-13 Mk.4, MiG-17PF/Lim-5P, F-104G(ROCAF), British Phantoms in SBEC, M2K C-S4 etc. Of cause MiG-21MF/SMT, J-7Ds are part of them.
Straight up lying. i defeated every vehicle you mentioned in a dogfight in F-5, A and E.
Congratulations, you will be given a parade in your honour because you survived a video game.
My apologies, let me emphasize my point. You (as in a general you, since English does not have a “plural you” I will just say everyone) are more likely to be eliminated by premium jets at that BR. Why, you might ask. Because around that BR range, there is a lot of premiums, hence why I call it the Premium Tiers. Simply because from 9.3 to 13.3, there are a plethora (that means a lot) of premium jets:
F-5: USA and Japan
A-10: USA
F-4: USA, UK, and Japan
Harrier: USA and UK
F-20: USA
F-18: USA
MiG 21: Germany, Russia, UK, and China
Tornado: Germany
Su-22: Germany and Russia
MiG 23: Russia
Mirage: France (F1C-200) and Israel (Kfir Canard)
Sweden: Saab J35XS
That entire list is basically everything from 9.3 to the 13.3 BR range, people are impatient and would rather buy those to grind out a tech tree (and eliminate the general you) than to play tech tree. That’s the simple truth. So while you may survive the general onslaught of noobs playing these premiums, that does not excuse that there is a notable premium spam that will lead to a higher chance of being eliminated by premiums more than a tech tree vehicle. That is why I say that the only reason why people are eliminated MORE OFTEN by the J-7D is because there is a notable spam of those jets than by someone actually playing tech tree vehicles at the 9.3 battle range.