At least, I am glad to hear that you finally stopped bombing in J-7D. :/
I think I might pissed off if you defended J-7D by nothing but ‘worse bombing capability compared to MiG-21bis’ in this topic too.
Here is 11.0…
It is quite fair that J-7D has same BR with these jets.
F-104G has x4 AIM-9Js at max but, literally doesn’t turn.
F-4EJ has x4 AIM-9Ps and x4 AIM-7Es but, turns like brick and 7Es aren’t that good.
F-5A(G) and F-5Es are quite annoying for dealing with MiG-21s but, they aren’t that fast. Keep BNZ just like what you guys should do against A6Ms in prop BR.
Kfir Canard is maybe horrible for dealing with J-7s because of its flight performance.
MiG-21bis can be “almost” side grade with J-7D because of its missiles and performances.
MiG-23M/MF is sad frogger because R-23s aren’t that good also, 12 flares.
MiG-27s are also sad because they only has x6 R-60Ms but, still quite fair because of its flight performance.
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That is literally what gaijin does, I don’t agree with it.
What do both of these have in common (F-5, gaijin also has some weird preferential treatment towards the F-5)
ya this is the main jet that breaks the mold but it also would be complete ass without them and R-60Ms aren’t valued nearly as highly as almost any other all aspect due to their large faults that hinder them.
how about that its 11.3 now and giving all aspects would be a massive buff? Why would it stay the same BR? 11.7 also doesn’t make sense when its strictly a better vehicle than the F104sasa which has to be 12.0 for the reason I gave
R-23T and R-24T are a completely different class of missile in how they are used, and also aren’t that good.
Are we talking aout the J-7E here or the J-7D? The J-7E flies nothing like any other MIG-21 in game.
Pl-5s are also the best rear aspect missiles in game
Shar FRS.1 (11.0) gone 11.0 because it has double number of AIM-9L compared to FRS.1 Early (10.7)
So, We can easily think about J-7D to 11.0 because it has double number of Magic 1 compared to A-5C(10.7) or Mirage IIIE(10.7)
isn’t it?
I didn’t include attackers because mostly, average players doesn’t use it as pure fighter.
I failed to find another exact example for ‘same plane but has different BR because of nothing but missile number difference’. :'(
aaand… I don’t think Shar FRS.1 is an attacker but a mistagged fighter.
Because its ground ordnance is outdated as hell.
The opposite case of MiG-27, which is a mistagged attacker.
Regular MiG-17 and MiG-17AS.
MiG-21PFM and MiG-21SPS-K but, they are undertiered imo.
F-5A(ROCAF) and F-5A(G).
Their role is mess just like JF-17.
It’s because of this game’s infatuation with making all air combat into tdm
I mean we have many aircrafts that is mistagged as fighter or attacker, bomber.
Fw190 F-8, Me 262 A-2a, FJ-4B, F-84B/G, MiG-27s, JF-17 etc…
Yes, often because of what I said. Designations in game are used as a balancing tool rather than as a real designation.
11.0, since it’s weaker than the J-7E
Out of these F-8E and all of the F-5s outclass J-7D
The standard F-5A and C don’t, but the ROC F-5A has 9Ps at 10.7, while the others are stuck with 9Es. However it can’t go up, because the F-5E exists at 11.0 with better flight performance and rwr and the same missiles.
No, they don’t.
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F-8E also slow and PL-5Bs are still better than AIM-9Ds.
IMO F-8E should go 11.0 with AIM-9Gs but, it is offtopic.
F-8E also outturns J-7D at any altitude.
It doesn’t?
Afaik, J-7D can pull harder at high speed under the instructor.
Also, even if they pulls harder, why you trying turnfight against F-8Es, which is not really needed in random battles, since J-7D/MiG-21s are ways faster on the deck?
They are just annoying, which doesn’t mean impossible/hard to kill, just like most turnfighter in the game.
It could before,it cant after the FM nerf all 21s got
