im kinda a shitter i play for fun after work i find it enjoyable where it is the a5c should be 10.3 11.0 is a weird spot for it so is 10.7 but i feel like the mig 23 ml’s should go up if it does pl5bs are iffy do great sometimes other times just spin or expload and kill me for some fucking reason
guns hard to use but i play on controller and suck with anything besides hispanos and 50s highest kill game with it was 7 in an 10.0 game i feel like taking 2x pl7s and 2x pl5bs
pl5bs have went through 40 flares before i feel like it should get 5cs and go to 11.3 since it has a weird playstyle of diving to get on peoples asses and missling them
all in all i feel like its good where its at but will still be relatively good at 11.0
it was my learning jet btw so stats will be bad
Yellow score means that the player is close to being useless in battle, just like as a third of the war thunder players that only know how to take off (sometimes) and shoot headons.
Someone with a rating like this on any plane shouldnt say if it is overtiered or undertiered
No one is saying nothing about duels
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I like this one personally Dunning Kruger effect
Game is very complex with so many variables most players seem hyperfixated on thier aircraft of choice than to look at the bigger picture of everything around it.
Rest of comment is general reply to thread. Just didnt make a second comment
If you look at KD for past month on stat shark in the range of 9.7-11.7.
J7E 11.3 is top dog with 1.6KD( even changing range from 10.3-12.3 J7E is number 1) then to J7D 10.7 at 7th with 1.34 next highest premiums are T2 Early with 1.16 and J35XS at 1.08.
Being a premium gives access to more players and the stats show the average player is doing very well in it. I check the stats of most J7D players i encounter in random battles and on average it is the plane they do the best with.
Few examples
J7D has more A2A loadout options and A2G plus 140 more rnds of cannon ammo over the J7E.
I dont think the J7E needs to move and performs perfectly fine at 11.3 but the J7D should be 11.0. Similar kits J7E with the double delta holding energy better should be 0.3 above the J7D.
J7D would not suffer at 11.0!
I dont see many posts with outrage about dropping the J7E down in br for reasons people have listed above no radar missles or napalm etc
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the reason j7d and J7E has high average KD/kb is because they have no napalm bombs.
and those who bomb can’t finish a base/carry any missiles
leads more players to play A2A.
I think this is a non stated factor that should be considered too
Actual dogshit take , A2G armament got nothing to do with the jet performance in A2A combat. How desperate a person must be to use this , it is like saying EF/Rafael got good A2G armament meaning they have piss poor air performance. Who would have thought , when jet play in their main role they thrive ???
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He was arguing about stats. So I provided a counter point of why j7d KDR may be inflated higher than it may look like, compared to other planes.
Mig 21bis lazur M has higher SL earning on average despite much lower KB, which means people bombed in them, lowering its KB.
very overstated factor here
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So a) you agree J7D should move up based on its A2A ability to 11.0
Or b) give it napalms and give it the “bomber” treatment ala the Q5 series and move it up to 11.0 based on its bombing ability
Radio call " I Agree"
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Bait used to be believable.
I think this is a non stated factor that should be considered too.
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Gimme this.
Mig23MLD 11.7 has 1.33kd
Mig23MLA 11.7 has 1.14kd
Mig23M. 11.0 has 1.01kd
Mig23ML. 11.7 has 1.00kd
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Man, I really hate this forum and Gaijin’s approaches about balancing planes.
Especially when I see ridiculous claims like ‘J-7D can’t be 11.0 because it doesn’t have napalm’
Everyone knows, even Anton might know that bombing capability can affect nothing about winning 11.0BR+ match in ARB.
Because the current ARB system is somewhat similar to a fighter-heaven-like TDM.
And there is no airfield destruction victory, or winning by ticket from ground targets is having low chance.
Then, why should J-7D be 10.7, because it can’t carry any worthwhile bombs
While Tornado IDS(with targeting pods) need to be 11.7 because it can carry the worthless guided bomb.
When J-7D can easily eat Tornado IDS alive and contribute a victory way superior?
(I picked tonka for example, because of nothing but personal preference. you can put any strike aircraft which can do nothing but a half-baked fighter jet in this mode in this place. MiG-27 or Su-24… and some others)
Man, blaming the non-extensiveness of napalm for keeping J-7D to 10.7BR is one of the most ridiculous takes if we consider both the current status of ARB and strike aircraft coutnerparts.
I know it is bait but i just can’t ignore it :/
It really should be reverted to 11.0.
even if we just consider nothing but the total amount of PL-8, which they can compare to the 10.7 counterparts.
“But J-7D don’t have any radar missiles and napalm”
[Me laughing in Tonka which also has none of the radar missile and napalm but has 1.0 higher BR]
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The mig 23 series are truly interesting. Stomps on a downtier, more or less completely in a uptier with its horrible radar.
Your rating with F-4E…
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Like the J-7D. Lmao
Idk if you are joking or not ngl, but this might sound crazy; i played those 11 games 4 years ago, never touched it again, may just do it now to get up that rating)))
The joke is your phrase with the rating of many of your vehicles
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0 kills in 11 battles. Youre a useless player in your own words
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