J-7D. The most broken plane at this time

Their role is mess just like JF-17.

It’s because of this game’s infatuation with making all air combat into tdm

I mean we have many aircrafts that is mistagged as fighter or attacker, bomber.

Fw190 F-8, Me 262 A-2a, FJ-4B, F-84B/G, MiG-27s, JF-17 etc…

Yes, often because of what I said. Designations in game are used as a balancing tool rather than as a real designation.

11.0, since it’s weaker than the J-7E

Out of these F-8E and all of the F-5s outclass J-7D

The standard F-5A and C don’t, but the ROC F-5A has 9Ps at 10.7, while the others are stuck with 9Es. However it can’t go up, because the F-5E exists at 11.0 with better flight performance and rwr and the same missiles.

No, they don’t.

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F-8E also slow and PL-5Bs are still better than AIM-9Ds.

IMO F-8E should go 11.0 with AIM-9Gs but, it is offtopic.

F-8E also outturns J-7D at any altitude.

It doesn’t?
Afaik, J-7D can pull harder at high speed under the instructor.

Also, even if they pulls harder, why you trying turnfight against F-8Es, which is not really needed in random battles, since J-7D/MiG-21s are ways faster on the deck?

They are just annoying, which doesn’t mean impossible/hard to kill, just like most turnfighter in the game.

It could before,it cant after the FM nerf all 21s got

In which world?

Latest version btw

In the world of WT, where the J-7D bleeds all the speed after one circle in where it will never recover it and loose.

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bro. what.

I take it you have never played a MiG 21 in this game.

i have? the mig 21s r13, and i never struggled out turning F8’s, and if youre flying a crusader and turnfighting with a mig21, the fuck is wrong with you, just go vertical and energy trap them while they hammer the S key like a monkey.

The MiG 21 cannot sustain an extended dogfight. You get (at best) two turns until you’re slowed down below 300km/h and lost.

yeah thats assuming the average player knows how to use the crusader, and im good enough at aiming so i usually hose them on merge or afer one turn.

Mate, you’re expecting American players to know how to play the game beyond missile spamming and trying to turn fight in a F-104, you’re giving them too much credit