??? when ??? you got an abrams and gaijin dont even put the country flag that operate this tanks in game
so sorry that you could take only 6 kills with 16 missiles instead of 16 kills
AIM-120C-5s are a worse AIM-120A/B.
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I have played China and the J-10A and can tell you, PL-12 is better than AIM-120 for WVR and not that far ay BVR
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After having over 400 matches in the J-11A and over 1,200 matches combined between the J-11s I can sadly say that the J-10C is very, very bad plane to be sitting at 14.3.
The airframe feels more sluggish compared to the A model, it can reach higher top speeds which is not only a completely useless fact for this type of fighter, but the airframe is about half a ton heavier. I dont see a single reason to not add the WS-10B apart from Gaijin being scared of this plane overperforming and watching how it will do with this nonsense nerfed AL-31 version.
Radar while being an improvement is a complete mess right now, I read about TWS mode being bugged again but what is in the game right now is much worse than what Eurofighter was in its most broken era, it is basically guaranteed that if you track a plane and it fires a missile it will start tracking the missile itself and mess up your shot.
Still only 72 countermeasures, while that is not in-game problem as the amount is realistic, it is far less than what is the standard at this BR.
And lastly missiles, yes the PL-12 is a good missile, but it is not at 120C, 77-1 or MICA level, most of this being due to the airframe (remember the MICA was not a problem until the Rafale came to the game), and PL-8B which I would honestly personally rate as one of the worst IRCCM missiles in the game - it is useless on very short range and and anything above 1.5km just gets one-flared for some reason which does not happen to me when im playing with any other top tier fox2 (honestly even 27ETs feel more flare resistant)
Overall the J-10C feels like an unfinished product, we have both WS-10B and PL-15 in the files, and while the game is not ready for both of these at the same time, we should have gotten atleast one of these for now, preferably the WS-10B engine, as we may expect the PL-15 to be added early next year together with counters from other nations like the 120C-7, R-77M etc.
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Its sad that the J10c is so unfinished that it doesnt even have a DEV blog
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Why do people insist on C5s being good lol
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Something something 120km range or something 🙃
Gosh I wonder why the j10c with more better missiles is at a higher br than the the aircraft with less worse missiles
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The seeker is identical to the one on the r-77-1 and aim120c-5
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Uuuuh what? Aesa isn’t the only radar which can datalink, the reason datalink si more powerful on aesa is because t tracks better on notching targets and because it can track outside the scan zone, afaik the only fox 3 equipped aircraft without datalink capability is the viggen
Gosh, I wonder why people think the J-10C has ‘better missiles’ with limited range. When you can outrun the PL-12 within 15-10 km by travelling laterally or away from it. Gripen E is lighter which allows it to turn much harder.
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Stop nitpicking on old messages and read the rest before commenting.
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Firing on a notching target traveling away from ou is a wasted missile on every missile I’ve played with.
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Again, you can that with almost all of the fox 3s
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Not notching at all. The missile is keeping track of the target and undershoots.
Do you have video examples of this?
I do not have this issue with AIM-120Cs. I can record one later when I have time.
As far as I know they announced that in the early 2026 new missiles will be implemented into the game.
I think they didn’t want to put it in 14.0 (It is better than the J10A so it would be absurd to be at 13.7 aswell) and then when the new missiles come in, raise it’s br to 14.3.
Also as others mentioned, not a single plane got new missiles and tbh if we are comparing it with the J10A, it isn’t bad at 14.3 the J10A is just arguably the best at 13.7 so that might be the reason you don’t see a huge difference in performance but in br.
J10c doesn’t need pl15 to compete st 14.3, it needs ws10b. And also ef2k aesa, rafales and su30sm2 should be 14.7
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True, overall they did the J-10 dirty with their flight performance. I’m not asking for like PL-15s, but there are other variants of the PL-12s that exist.
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