J-10C is at 14.3

TWS doesn’t guide missiles unless it’s a solid lock… Unless you’re AESA

To be fair, it’s an insanely good missile, great acceleration on a gatewith narrowing IRCCM seeker is superb, much better than AIM-9M.

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I think you need to learn how TWS actually work…

Yeah I know, it’s just 9Ms are better for close ranges, especially for dog fights.

Incorrect :)

False, TWS does provide datalink updates, although they are not as quick as hardlock datalink updates.

The difference is probably nothing if you’re in narrow scan with analog or using pesa/aesa

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I think you overestimate the close range ability of AIM-9M, it is a 30G missile which patently does not turn off the rail. It performs well as a close range missile, but it won’t save you with crazy shots such as with magics or r-73. I haven’t played with PL-8 though so I can’t say for sure how bad they are at close range, but it’s certainly not a part of the kit worth complaining about.

Not really… I’ve prefer 9Ms in sim majority of the time. Yes it’s 30Gs but 40Gs for PL-8Bs + high acceleration doesn’t make it as great for close engagements. 9Ms doesn’t turn off the rail directly, but it feels a lot easier to lead than using PL-8Bs

What the fuck are we talking about chat.
Is this delusion?

I’ve had much better time using other FOX-3s than PL-12s. It’s literally a only close range FOX-3.

The only fox-3 I enjoy using more than PL-12s are MICAs

Besides R-77s and MICAs they are the only half decent close range fox-3s

And unlike those two it goes out decently far

I honestly have a better time with AIM-120 C-5s and R-77-1s. It’s a lot more consist than PL-12s for me.

On what jet? (Amraam)

Eurofighter, F-15E.

F-15, not a chance in hell, i’d take 6 PL-12s on an eagle over the 8 amraams post-nerf

Eurofighter does all the heavy lifting for the missile, not really fair to compare the PL-12 airframes, infinitely worse at close-medium ranges

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I do fairly decent in mid-close range engagements with F-15E in sim. It’s feels like I actually have the range even if they run away than with Pl-12s, that doesn’t have much range to begin with.

TWS does guide the missile, look up some videos on the mater

I know. The people below already commented. I was told by someone that TWS doesn’t prior to this.

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nerf over 120Bs more than anything; its worse at normal combat ranges and better at ranges where you have to be AFK to get hit lol.

Seeker of PL-12 isnt any different to other ARHs bar MICAs.

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