So what’s the problem with being the worst of the best? The problem is that in the game you face the best.
I don’t want the J10C to be the top dog, I just want it to perform about average compared to its peers.
WS10b is the minimum
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yeah im just saying this isnt new the J10A isnt paticurally good at dogfighting im pretty sure the new grippen E even heavier can still beat it
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its at least better than the j11/j11a.
prolly worse than the j11b/j10a though, with j11b being the best dogfighter China has
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just wish it kept the R73s for dogfight missiles
Which is funny cuz in real life J-10 beats the J-11 in dogfights rather easily iirc.
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Tbf Gripen E has a new engine barely bringing its TWR to a bit above 1. In a turn its slightly better than the J10C, with the new engine it would probably be better, and if they fix the drag maybe it could give the euro a run. Thats a lot of ifs though
Gripen E also has increased weight so it’s only a slight engine performance increase.
It can still give J-10s, Eurofighter and Rafale some issues but it practically has to be a low speed dogfight.
Now imagine Gripen E with MICA’s and IRIS-T.
Would be a literal demon at close to medium range.
for J-11B maybe, as J-10C has much better radar and ECM system than it. since J-11B is much older with last generation electronics and missiles.
it even won SU-35 several times, though SU-35 has much powerful radar, as reported, J-10C won by much smaller RCS, more advanced radar and better ECM which reduced the N035’s range to similar standard, then the PL-15 get the final kill.
Huh?
I was saying that J-10 beats J-11’s in dogfight on my previous comment?
Definitely will get IRIS-T in the future, but MICAs were denied. Stuck with AMRAAMs till MBDA Meteor comes. 😔
Ah, I jumped over the “dogfight” part
J-10A outclasses the J-11B in most metrics
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It doesn’t, J-10A actually loses in most except a few like radar gimbal
Otherwise J-11B is better in basically everything
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We were talkking about dogfight scenario where the J-10A is simply better
i believe pl12A is being added
Indeed it is
J10C is getting its new better engine and PL15s
PL-12A, not 15.
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now only 120CM to make it perfect
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