Thanks lol needed that
And additional composite armor on the roof, useful against top attacks and auto canons.
And looks way hotter.
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How do you guys type out these essays within literally 1 minute? Lmao
Already knew what deflection attempt was incoming so had written it ahead of time to see if I would be right. Quite fun.
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I would have put it there, but it’s Chinese players that state it’s shit; and since they have experience on it and I don’t, I figured I was in no position to question them ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Unlike others, when I don’t have first-hand experience on a vehicle, I listen to those who have it, instead of lecturing them on their own vehicle.
I would have guessed VT-4A1 to have great armor and mobility; however, many of its players claim that the armor performs worse than it should, so I’ll take their word for it.
I think one thing we can all agree on is that server side replays being openly accessible to all is a blessing and we can be thankful that they exist for a multitude of reasons.
1.Leo2A7 (Ger)
2.Leo2A7 (Hu)
3.Strv 122B+
4.Strv 122B PLSS
5.Strv 122A
5.M1A2
6.M1A2 SEP
7.Type10/TKX
8.M1A2 SEPV2
9.T-80BVM
10.ZTZ-99A
11.WZ1001
12.T-90M
13.Leclerc SXXI
14.Leclerc AZUR
15.CR2 E
16.VT-4A1
17.Merkava Mk.4M
18.CR3 TD
19.Black Night
20.Ariete AMV
This list is infinitely better i cant be asked ranking the other Leopards just put them around where the leclerc and T-90M are
the average player cant aim for glaringly obvious weakspots which is why you still have people screaming russian bias
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Yes, particularly transparency regarding cheating, and for false accusations regarding toxicity, too.
For example; a player on Reddit would rant about someone pushing them “for no reason”, only for the server replay to show they were the first one to actually begin ingame hostilities by pushing and ramming first, etc.
This entire thread is pointless because the Lancia 3Ro can one shot every single top tier MBT with HESH at 1.7. This is complete Italian bias.
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Russian bias died months ago, now Russian MBTs are mere sidegrades to the Abrams tanks.
They used to be OP because of a bug preventing their ammoracks from detonating way too often upon being hit- but ever since that was fixed, they became what they were always meant to be; high armor, low survivability tanks (save for T-90M, that one has amazing survivability, but too bad rate of fire and mediocre mobility, hence holding it back from being extraordinary.)
Autoloaders being modelled were the final straw to put them in an average place.
Of course Relikt and spalling is trolly sometimes, but that happens on every vehicle and armor.
As someone above said, Russian and American MBTs are asymmetrical sidegrades; American ones have higher ceiling, Russian ones have lower floors.
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Soviet bias died before I had a consistent premium account… granted Soviet bias was never a thing.
I was there when the T-44 didn’t have roof armor for months cause the bug fixing team was fixing more important issues with the game.
The ammo rack bug impacted all tanks, not just Soviets.
I’m glad you properly used a semicolon, cause this statement is correct.
There’s a subjective nature to the statement following this; everyone learns different things at different rates.
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Yep!
Some people prefer the stronger armor of Russian tanks, others prefer the better dynamics and reload of American tanks…
But at the end of the day, they are both tanks with both strengths, and weaknesses.
Same goes for the Type 10s, in my opinion; same category as the Abrams, but even higher ceiling; more prominent advantages… while also having additional weaknesses.
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Then there’s the 2A7s and 122s, which are literally just strengths and no weaknesses at all lmao.
That’s why I want all these tanks (Abrams, Leclerc, Merkava, Chinese, Types) to get fixed; so that the gap in capabilities between them and the Leo’s/Strvs isn’t as big as it currently is. Also why I want more additions like M1A2 SEPv3, Leclerc XLR, etc.
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While we tend to fix the conversation on MBTs, about other aspects ussr vs us:
MBTs: 🤝
Helis: 😥
CAS: 🤨
Anti-Air: 💀
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It benefited them the most due to its placement around the crew acting like a pseudo spall liner, straight up nullifying damage.oddly enough china did not benefit from it the same degree and it took them nearly 3 whole years to fix it lmao
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Hahahah, indeed.
ADATS is cool, but it costing one hundred kajillion SP to spawn is… not cool xD. Then there’s the whole Pantsir being better than any other SPAA in the game, but, as stated, that’s not U.S exclusive xD.
SU-25SM3 has comically OP range capabilities, but American AGM-65Gs are cool, I am enjoying them.
And helis… I can only say I deeply regret having spent 500 GE to crew AH-64D, xD.
I still enjoyed to point out my position about this, which is common to many of us.
Some people like to picture us as “U.S mains who just want their toys to be OP to be invincible”, but this is far from the truth. Of course there may be 1 or 2 people like that, but just like everywhere else. We are just players trying to have valid concerns regarding objective issues addressed! ^^
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Fun fact, Ariete incorrectly had blow out panels coded in for months to years.
On top of that the bug obviously impacted Challengers at least as equally as T-series tanks.
In the other day, i couldnt spaw ADATS on my last respaw bc it was costing 700 something SP, this is just total non sense (while the lav was only 150)
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The BVM and SEPv2 should switch.
Cmon man, I’m an unabashedly US main. I’d take ground in a heartbeat over England, China and Israel. I think Russia is about even with the U.S. just different use cases for their advantages. I’m just not sure if I’d put Japan above or below us.
The insane reload would benefit me, because my biggest problem for tanks is the Leo’s and stuff I hit with perfectly placed side shots that magically don’t do enough damage to disable the turret ring, they turn and shoot me. A lot of time it’s like fractions of seconds before my Abrams reloads. With Japan I’d be able to finish off. However, I’ll take hull down Abrams over TKX and stuff in a heartbeat. I don’t know how to balance them above or below US/Russia for ground… but it close.
But the U.S. is not 2nd to last lmfao. Though I do agree SEPv2 was a downgrade. Not a side grade as people call it, a genuine downgrade.
I’ve edited this like 3 times now cuz I find each new paragraph something to disagree with lol. Maybe I should read all the way through, but the first statement was enough to get a response.
The adats is weak, not the weakest and it’s BS it costs so much when others and pantsuits are perfectly capable tank destroyers.
Yeah the whole not having a top tier light vehicle is lame. The hstvl I think is utter shit for exactly what you mentioned. Bradley weak tows as well.
The more I play f15c and slowly raising my k/d to near 1.0(from .3 a month ago lmfao) the more I disagree with this. The f16c is great from what I hear because I don’t have it, but the f15c is an animal. I can almost close out the skies on GRB with it if I’m positioned well.
Can’t comment on Helos, I have most of them unlocked but never use them. Jets and tanks for me.
But we are not 2nd worst, not in ground and certainly not in combined arms. We’re mid tier on ground and high in air from what I understand and believe with my limited experience in f15c. I’d still choose the U.S. over and over again. I like it, it just needs some things fixed.
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