Is US top tier too weak

Type 10 and Type 81 alone makes Japan worth to play. And yeah sure, Japan has next to no CAS. At least it has the best F-15 for air CAP.

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The SEPv1 is considerably more mobile than the T-90M if you don’t take the worthless TUSK 1 package. Not taking the TUSK 1 is how the SEPv1 is supposed to be played.

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Which losts it’s ability to load at all after getting hit anywhere :)

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‘‘Objectively’’

Sigh…

Don’t lie, people will call you out on it.

The M1’s have consistently received numerous buffs and upgrades since then:

  • M1 Abrams, IPM1, M1A1 and M1A2 lower glacis: 332mm > 375mm.
  • IPM1 and M1A1 right cheek: 400mm > 464mm.
  • IPM1 and M1A1 left cheek: 434mm > 539mm.
  • M1A2 left cheek: 667mm > 766mm.
  • M1A2 right cheek: 625mm > 685mm.
  • M1 Abrams left cheek: 486mm > 450mm.
  • M1 Abrams right cheek: 426mm > 403mm.
  • M1A1 received M829A1.
  • M1A2 received M829A2 based on dev server feedback.
  • IPM1 received M900.
  • Reload rate buffed from 6 sec > 5 sec.
  • UFP benefitted from a global change which resulted in it defeating any and all APFSDS in the game.
  • Engine noise levels reduced significantly.
  • Sight magnification buffed from 3x-10x to 3x-13x.

This has kept them competitive over the years and also resulted in the IPM1/M1A1 being the #1 strongest MBT’s relative to their BR in the entire game at numerous points in their history.

Both the M1A1 and T-80U (and Challenger 2) suffered against the Leopard 2A5, but it’s awfully convenient of you to forget the period where the M1 / IPM1 absolutely demolished everything for months on end.

I’ll take an M1 over a T-80BVM or T-90M any day of the week.

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Also, Type 81 (C) is a great fire-and-forget SAM that does not cost half a kajillion SP to spawn, unlike AD*TS.

Or returning the shot because trust me, that DM53 proof armor does work quite well. Anyway I’m not gonna argue which MBT is more shit. Bottom line is Challengers are the worst and Abrams can’t compete against meta Strv 122 and 2A7V like others. US SPAA sucks d*ck and should be replaced by something competitive. And Bradley’s TOW should be fixed because they don’t do anything besides hit the ground. Ah-64D will remain useless till the end of this game. And if you wanna have fun and win battles, play Sweden or Russia.

He’s referring to practical vehicle models as ON THEIR FINAL STATE, leaving aside initial bugs being gradually fixed and new shell additions which happened to every other Top Tier MBT, don’t be intentionally disingenuous to disregard a very clear point.

Because the point is:

M1A2 SEPv2 is M1A2, but slower and with better thermals.
M1A2 SEP is M1A2, but better thermals.
M1A1 AIM is M1A2, but without CITV, worse shell and without better thermals.
M1A1 HC is M1A2, but without CITV and worse shell.

God, sometimes I am glad you blocked me for disagreeing with you. I would return the favour to stop seeing this nonsense, but calling you out for others to see is preferrable, so I will have to deal with this burden.

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Hell the M1A2 got improved ammo twice. In november 2020 Gaijin got somewhat pressured into giving the M1A2 M829A1 (were no plans for it first dev server when they added the 2A6 with DM53) and around december 2021 they gave the M1A2 M829A2.

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Improved ammo twice yet still can’t even pen Kontakt 5. All those ammo improvements just made Challenger 2’s hull lolpen for everyone.

If only there was a counter to this armor, like making the gun follow some kind of crosshair that can be co trolled by some device that is connected tou your PC/console.

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lol what have i just read

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Stop trying to bullsh*t me. I play the damn vehicle everyday. 90M’s armor works far better than Abrams’. And it does survive more sideshot thanks to it’s bs relikt and spall liners.

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You cant.

He will keep spreading his nonsense about Us vehicles while trying to make Russian tanks look like mediocre.

At this point im hundred percent sure he has personal grudge against Us and will try to deny any fixes/buffs to US vehicles.

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I also play most top tier vehicles and the T-90M are so incredibly easy to deal with.

The moment I saw through him, he blocked me. You are correct- he has nothing but a grudge against U.S and will stop at nothing, ever.

I still remember when U.S DID perform well, back in 2018. He made a Forum thread crying about how OP U.S was and suggesting 30 different ways to nerf them.

Interestingly though, he never made such threads when Russia, Germany or Sweden stomped on everyone else.

It was never a problem for T-80BVM+Pantsir+KA-50/52+MiG-27s to stomp on everyone;
It was never a problem for the Strv 122s to stomp on everyone;
It was never a problem for Leopard 2A5+2A6 to stomp on everyone…

Only back when M1/IPM1/ADATS stomped, it was a problem.

He was so eager to make his famous “U.S is currently stomping Top Tier, solutions?” thread…
…yet he never bothered to make a “Russoa/Germany/Sweden is currently stomping Top Tier, solutions?” thread

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US didn’t just “perform well” in 2018. It absolutely stomped the ever living shit out of every nation.

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Because he has personal issues with US in real life.

I know what kind threads or post he made on previous forum and i know how hypocritical he is.

He was always like that and never changed, he keeps talking about how “Great” Abrams are by using M1A1 performance as an evidence, as if matters something for M1A2 family.

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…and it was called out as such.

But when Germany, Russia or Sweden stomped the ever living shit out of every nation, somehow it’s not a problem.

Instead, the nation to take ALL the flak still is the U.S.

If the U.S stomps, it gets flak.
If someone else stomps… U.S STILL gets flak.

U.S is always getting shat on the Forums, regardless of how well or poorly they perform.

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damn 2018 feels like a lifetime ago

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Its really simple.

Thats because many people actually hates US in real life due to how strong their military is and how they can do whatever the fk they want. Meanwhile their country doesnt even come close to US level.

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