Is US top tier too weak

The 2A7V will have it’s armour changed in the next major update, it’s currently both bugged and underperforming based on available source material.

The Strv 122’s are also underperforming, yet I doubt they’ll get fixed.

I would be fairly skectical about that too however, given the difference in LoS thickness between the turret cheeks and the glacis.

But yes, 670mm does seem too low going by available sources, and it should be equal to the Strv 122 at minimum.

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Multiple sources states that hull armor protection should be equal to turret armor, whether you like it or not.

The reason why hull armor provides equal protection is that Germans also changed internal composite armor and they actually made it stronger, combining with latest gen MEXAS add-on armor its quite possible to match turret protection in that case.

Safe to say your personal opinions doesnt mean anything in this regard.

Do whatever you want

Just some advice, if you dont make your position clear, others people will, so, the same manner you disagree you can also agree. This is a forum for debate and make your ideas/intentions/motivations clear will prevent presumptions about you.

about other 5 mbts (which as far as i know only japan has the same ring problems) you can ask for fix in their respective topics, i have nothing against fixing other nations as well

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well, im only here bc im tired of losing and i think a bunch of people too, this is a game in the end of the day.

while i agree that abrams must be 1:1 by its irl counterpart no matter what, we know gaijin will not do it so easily (or they would have already started fix the ring instead of giving the 5 seconds of realod) bc its already a good tank, but not so noob friendly like some others MBTs.

While i agree, again, with you that fixing the ring will not magically fix US WR, if others fixs also come to live together (hydraulic pump and the 50mm hull thing for example) you will start to se the US WR going up. I have an expression on my native language that says “de grão em grão a galinha enche o papo” that basically says that a bunch o little things make a huge difference.

And as you said, gaijin decide when to be realistic, and i think its just for the sake of the balance in the game, irl stuff was not created to be balanced.

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“The Abrams UFP is an auto-ricochet, so its armor is aktchually not so bad.”

The Abrams UFP being an autoricochet: kills the whole crew like a boss

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well, its your fault that you was in the middle of the town and not behind of a rock all match

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Clearly Skill issue.

You shouldnt left the hangar Spanish.

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The fact you say you haven’t seen documents of such when there are dozens of pictures showing the turret ring and its shape, including how thick it truly is, all across the Internet, and you and others in your circle repeatedly deny it, is outrageous in its gaslighting.

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T90M is no where near as bad as most people claim

It’s a straight downgrade from the T-80BVM, and the T-80BVM is already average right now.
It’s just a glorified T-72B3.

That’s why it’s in the mid/low section.

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lolwat? T-90M has double the armor of T-80BVM, same round, similar forward speed.
BVM is a sidegrade from T-80U/UK as-is.

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In a desperate attempt at keeping my U.S Top Tier lineup somewhat relevant, I figured its MBTs were not the way…

So I have broken my sacred oath and put in service not just a CAS plane… but even a H*licopter, just now. NOTHING in all these years had pushed me beyond mad this far to make me do the unthinkable.

I would never have imagined I would fall THIS low.

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Not using CAS while playing the USA feels like it should be a crime (it’s also dumb not to if you have a plane). It’s their thing to have great CAS.

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“In an effort to keep my US lineup relevant I added a Helicopter”

Good luck with that.

Doubly so since the strike fighter spawn (AV-8) shouldn’t cause Fighter spawns like the F-16 to double in cost iirc, and the AV-8 can still multi role with AMRAAMS

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So far, I have been having a better experience with AV-8B+… I guess I gotta spade AH-64D before drawing conclusions, hahah. But, so far, AGM-65Gs one-hit kill everything and are fire-and-forgets, while the only AGM-114K I’ve fired, uh… failed to kill a Pantsir xD.

Besides, I can also use the Harrier as CAP against helicopters with the guns and other planes with the 9Ms, so that’s nice too.

I also guess I just need to get used to and get the hang out of the Apache; this is literally the first time I ever use an attack helicopter!

And C*S shall forever be confined to U.S among my lineups, hahah. It’s just an exception I made. Never again!


Also, U.S really needs an SPAA that isn’t 4x times more expensive to spawn than everyone else’s (including the damn Pantsir).

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Welcome to the club.

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wtf sis

I thought you said you never touched air units, how long does it take to reach 12.0 aviation

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I did play planes, but on Air RB!

In terms of Ground, until now, I only regularly used them in WW2 tiers, since I never had much of a problem with dumb bomb CAS, hahah.

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i would change the HSTV-L for the Wolfpack/M1128 for full gen 2 thermals (is what i did) or for the M3A3 Bradley (however i dont think it is that good, but the TOW-2B can be very useful some times)

This is basically my lineup too, i dont have the AV-8B+ yet (i dont play air and sucks at it).

Off-topicing a little: im thinking of buying the F20 for CAS (it have 4 mav), i already have A-6E TRAM, but is subsonic and also only have 4 skippers (4 skippers vs 4 mavs), anyone can share your opinion on this?

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