It’s better than every 13.7 in game mate, when it dropped it proved that easily. The planes it was competing with it absolutely dusted.
Now theres only a few planes better aka the Rafale and Typhoon, and is likely tied with SU30.
What F16 specifically you’ve got 3 in the US tree. Also what F16 has MAW?
Yeah but they are also lacking in ground strike capabilities. it’s not all A2A stuff that makes the BR mate.
You are stating that the worst of their own vehicles which is just objectively false.
they don’t have the worst F18 at top tier, they also don’t have the worst F16 at top tier.
As I said what F16 has MAW?
Gaijin nerf F-15E and C Golden Eagle they can only carry 8 but in fact as you can see in the picture F-15E can carry more missiles if it is included in the game that can be an advantage for the US Air Force
Yeah, not saying it is, Most of the time, MAWS is a gimmick that really shouldnt have any impact on BR and is only good situationally (Tornado GR4 with unlimited CMs or Typhoon with PD MAWS that allows for precise notching to actually make the BOL Usable as chaff), but is an F-16 with MAWS, technically.
It’s an absolute brick that bleeds energy like crazy, with awful close range performance relative to other aircraft. As long as the AIM-120’s are so brutally nerfed, long range isn’t very viable either it’s not that hard to defend as a 13.0. the AMRAAM works but it’s still one of the worse missiles at top tier.
F-16I and the F-16AM both get MAW.
The Australian F/A-18 gets full a2g and BOL, and the a2g doesn’t even matter much in air modes so there’s the MLU 2 as well
It’s one of the better ones to be fair to the amraam mate.
okay so keep them at arms length like you can with its massive TWR and then use that.
you’re the same kind of person to try dogfight in an F4S then complain it doesn’t work.
Play a vehicle to its strengths. The Typhoon as @AlvisWisla says is the only one faster than teh F15E and faster accelerating which means you can outpace literally anything but one of them.
Work fine for me compared to R darters, Derbies and R77 standards
So then how is it an upgrade? xD
I didn’t know AM got MAW but again, it’s more a detriment than an actual upgrade in game.
how does the ground ordinance of a strike plane not matter?
You are moving the goalposts now chief.
AMRAAMs only meaningful advantage over any other ARH missile at the moment is range.
But firing at ranges where that advantage is noticable is usually also the ranges which most can quite easily get into a notch and defeat the missile, meaning hits are usually the result of someone defending poorly rather than the missile being good. (Im interested in the Contrail changes because it gives the oppotunity to be more sneaky and catch people unawares from an unexpected angle)
At the more common shorter ranges (sub 20km)… other missiels simply perform better. Like R-77-1s better pull and time to target or MICA EMs much better seeker and WVR performance and whilst they arent that good either, R-Darter, Derby, PL-12, etc etc just have strenghts over AMRAAM at shorter ranges.
It might not be “bad” but is pretty mediocre compared to everything else.
The idea of keeping enemy aircraft at arms length when they out-dogfight you is a thing you’re supposed to learn in props.
F-15C also easily keeps Rafales at arms length, because despite the acceleration difference, the F-15 will have a higher top speed, and retain supersonic speeds well enough.
The art of aggressive defense.
My first lesson was when F-14A was added.
My second lesson was when I was spading Mirage 3C facing F-14As, and not once did I die to a radar missile during that spading, all while moving toward the enemy.
how so ? the Derbies fire off the rail basically straight leaving them useless in closer range engagements.
R Darter has the weird ass lofting thing or did that get removed
What strengths ? having used both derbies and darters I’d much rather amraams.
the F16I with the CFTs empty is 9.54 odds, and wihtout them is 9.149 so the same as the C
I am literally using AMRAAM right now spading the 15C MSIP as well as returning to the Typhoon, The amraams are fine.
No they aren’t great for sub 3km launches like mica, R77 or R77-1 but thats fine. Keep the enemy at arms length xD
DON’T get into close quarters fights.
