y’all forgetting about the mbt-2000
I made this list before the mobility nerf, updated xD
It’s also still incredibly easy to play. I have recently mostly finished spading it and it took no effort to get it to a 60% WR and 1.8-2.0 K/D.
It should still be in the top half of the MBT list.
That’s a little better. Still criminal how high the T-90M and how low the SEPv1 is.
Agreed! Gonna update
appealing to personal experience is not a proof.
Spoiler
- Strv 122B+
- Leopard 2A7HU
- Leopard 2A7V
- Leopard 2A6
- Strv 122B
- Strv 122A
- Leopard 2A5
- Leopard 2 PSO
- T-90M
- M1A2 SEP
- M1A2
- M1A2 SEPV2
- T-80BVM
- Type 10
- TKX
- Leclerc SXXI
- Leclerc AZUR
- Challenger 2E
- Merkava Mk.4M
- Merkava Mk.4 LIC
- Merkava Mk.4B
- Ariete AMV
- WZ1001 (E) LCT
- ZTZ99A
- VT4A1
- Challenger 2 BN
- Challenger 3TD
this is very close to what I would have decided as well, but my only gaming experience is with M1A2, others I only have experience fighting against
T-80BVM > T-90M, so how’s a T-90M above a M1A2 SEP with the T-80BVM below it?
How’s a Leo 2A5 better than the M1A2 SEP?
How in seven hells is a Leopard 2A6 superior to a Strv 122?
You have yet to provide any proof yourself though.
As i said, soviet tanks have nothing that toptier tank must have. No armor, no reload, no elevation degrees, no homing speed, no reverse speed, only 3 crew members.
Seeing how everyone shares their rankings, this is my list (although I’m not completely happy with it):
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- Strv 122B+
- Leopard 2A7V
- Leopard 2A7HU
- Strv 122B
- Strv 122A
- Type 10
- TKX
- M1A2 SEP
- Leopard 2A6
- T-80BVM
- Leopard 2A5
- M1A2
- Leopard 2 PSO
- T-90M
- M1A2 SEPV2
- Leclerc SXXI
- Leclerc AZUR
- Challenger 2E
- WZ1001 (E) LCT
- ZTZ99A**
- Merkava Mk.4M
- VT4A1
- Challenger 2 BN
- Ariete AMV
- Challenger 3TD
- Merkava Mk.4 LIC
- Merkava Mk.4B
** = ZTZ and WZ are a bit harder to rank with the upcoming “99A remake” on the leaklist and it’s unknown consequences.
EDIT: did an oopsy and forget to move the T-80BVM
The BVM armor is still pretty nice
Fair
you mean gun elevation speed? the BVM has one of the fastest gun elevation speeds at top tier iirc
same as above
fair
actually the best ranking so far
Reload doesn’t matter for either because you get out reloaded by everything, T-90M is the only top tier MBT with survivability even comparable to a Leopard 2. T-90M forward speed is poor, yes, but the survivability and armor make up for it.
So just in general, the T-90M is so high because of how easy it is to play.
Spall liner, better armor and no turret wing weak spot. Mobility is identical. M1A2 SEP has better thermals + better reload. It’s more of a trade off which is why they’re close on the list.
It has the L/55. Strv 122 has better hull armor. That’s why they’re right next to each other on the list. For example the Type 10 is higher than the TKX on my list even though they’re pretty much identical.
Where? It dies from lolpen by oneshot from everyone on that br
I mean gun depression.
You mean same as nato tanks? Every other soviet tank has about 4 degrees a sec (like t-90m). That bad as shit.
Do you even know what lolpen means?
It looks like you dont.
Yeah, when you shoot without much aiming.
the T-90M also has NATO MBT level degrees/second gun elevation and turret rotation speed.
are you talking about the T-90A?
Lol pens means regardless how much armor does enemy tanks have you will penetrate every part of his vehicle.