Is US top tier too weak

y’all forgetting about the mbt-2000

I made this list before the mobility nerf, updated xD

It’s also still incredibly easy to play. I have recently mostly finished spading it and it took no effort to get it to a 60% WR and 1.8-2.0 K/D.

It should still be in the top half of the MBT list.

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That’s a little better. Still criminal how high the T-90M and how low the SEPv1 is.

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Agreed! Gonna update

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appealing to personal experience is not a proof.

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  1. Strv 122B+
  2. Leopard 2A7HU
  3. Leopard 2A7V
  4. Leopard 2A6
  5. Strv 122B
  6. Strv 122A
  7. Leopard 2A5
  8. Leopard 2 PSO
  9. T-90M
  10. M1A2 SEP
  11. M1A2
  12. M1A2 SEPV2
  13. T-80BVM
  14. Type 10
  15. TKX
  16. Leclerc SXXI
  17. Leclerc AZUR
  18. Challenger 2E
  19. Merkava Mk.4M
  20. Merkava Mk.4 LIC
  21. Merkava Mk.4B
  22. Ariete AMV
  23. WZ1001 (E) LCT
  24. ZTZ99A
  25. VT4A1
  26. Challenger 2 BN
  27. Challenger 3TD
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this is very close to what I would have decided as well, but my only gaming experience is with M1A2, others I only have experience fighting against

T-80BVM > T-90M, so how’s a T-90M above a M1A2 SEP with the T-80BVM below it?

How’s a Leo 2A5 better than the M1A2 SEP?

How in seven hells is a Leopard 2A6 superior to a Strv 122?

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You have yet to provide any proof yourself though.

As i said, soviet tanks have nothing that toptier tank must have. No armor, no reload, no elevation degrees, no homing speed, no reverse speed, only 3 crew members.

Seeing how everyone shares their rankings, this is my list (although I’m not completely happy with it):

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  1. Strv 122B+
  2. Leopard 2A7V
  3. Leopard 2A7HU
  4. Strv 122B
  5. Strv 122A
  6. Type 10
  7. TKX
  8. M1A2 SEP
  9. Leopard 2A6
  10. T-80BVM
  11. Leopard 2A5
  12. M1A2
  13. Leopard 2 PSO
  14. T-90M
  15. M1A2 SEPV2
  16. Leclerc SXXI
  17. Leclerc AZUR
  18. Challenger 2E
  19. WZ1001 (E) LCT
  20. ZTZ99A**
  21. Merkava Mk.4M
  22. VT4A1
  23. Challenger 2 BN
  24. Ariete AMV
  25. Challenger 3TD
  26. Merkava Mk.4 LIC
  27. Merkava Mk.4B

** = ZTZ and WZ are a bit harder to rank with the upcoming “99A remake” on the leaklist and it’s unknown consequences.

EDIT: did an oopsy and forget to move the T-80BVM

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The BVM armor is still pretty nice

Fair

you mean gun elevation speed? the BVM has one of the fastest gun elevation speeds at top tier iirc

same as above

fair

actually the best ranking so far

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Reload doesn’t matter for either because you get out reloaded by everything, T-90M is the only top tier MBT with survivability even comparable to a Leopard 2. T-90M forward speed is poor, yes, but the survivability and armor make up for it.

So just in general, the T-90M is so high because of how easy it is to play.

Spall liner, better armor and no turret wing weak spot. Mobility is identical. M1A2 SEP has better thermals + better reload. It’s more of a trade off which is why they’re close on the list.

It has the L/55. Strv 122 has better hull armor. That’s why they’re right next to each other on the list. For example the Type 10 is higher than the TKX on my list even though they’re pretty much identical.

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Where? It dies from lolpen by oneshot from everyone on that br

I mean gun depression.

You mean same as nato tanks? Every other soviet tank has about 4 degrees a sec (like t-90m). That bad as shit.

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Do you even know what lolpen means?

It looks like you dont.

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Yeah, when you shoot without much aiming.

the T-90M also has NATO MBT level degrees/second gun elevation and turret rotation speed.

are you talking about the T-90A?

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Lol pens means regardless how much armor does enemy tanks have you will penetrate every part of his vehicle.