Is US top tier too weak

“In an effort to keep my US lineup relevant I added a Helicopter”

Good luck with that.

Doubly so since the strike fighter spawn (AV-8) shouldn’t cause Fighter spawns like the F-16 to double in cost iirc, and the AV-8 can still multi role with AMRAAMS

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So far, I have been having a better experience with AV-8B+… I guess I gotta spade AH-64D before drawing conclusions, hahah. But, so far, AGM-65Gs one-hit kill everything and are fire-and-forgets, while the only AGM-114K I’ve fired, uh… failed to kill a Pantsir xD.

Besides, I can also use the Harrier as CAP against helicopters with the guns and other planes with the 9Ms, so that’s nice too.

I also guess I just need to get used to and get the hang out of the Apache; this is literally the first time I ever use an attack helicopter!

And C*S shall forever be confined to U.S among my lineups, hahah. It’s just an exception I made. Never again!


Also, U.S really needs an SPAA that isn’t 4x times more expensive to spawn than everyone else’s (including the damn Pantsir).

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Welcome to the club.

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wtf sis

I thought you said you never touched air units, how long does it take to reach 12.0 aviation

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I did play planes, but on Air RB!

In terms of Ground, until now, I only regularly used them in WW2 tiers, since I never had much of a problem with dumb bomb CAS, hahah.

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i would change the HSTV-L for the Wolfpack/M1128 for full gen 2 thermals (is what i did) or for the M3A3 Bradley (however i dont think it is that good, but the TOW-2B can be very useful some times)

This is basically my lineup too, i dont have the AV-8B+ yet (i dont play air and sucks at it).

Off-topicing a little: im thinking of buying the F20 for CAS (it have 4 mav), i already have A-6E TRAM, but is subsonic and also only have 4 skippers (4 skippers vs 4 mavs), anyone can share your opinion on this?

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Interesting! Also functional shell xD

On the other hand, 7.5 second reload (oof), enormous and slower :/

Yeah, the reload speed and speed/maneuverability sucks, but you can play it considering theses factors, as well as having a somewhat trolling model (it have more survivability than abrams lol).

You also can take the bradley, it still sucks at speed but at least is maneuverable, the thing is that your only real option to kill something frontally is the TOWs and this is not reliable.

Yeah, the 25mm keeps me from using Bradley hahah.

If it had a 40mm, 35mm… or even :0mm, I would use it! But that puny 25mm is barely able (if at all) to pen Russian tanks on the side, and it’s not even strong enough to exploit any front weakspot on most MBTs, so skip xD

Thats why i go with wolfpack hahaha

Bradley is so inconsistent even for 10.0, i know you can play it and be good, but i never got to be good with it too… in the end still an option better than hstv-l in my opinion, at least tow-2b can be very useful situationally, can lock aircrafts/helis and have gen2 thermals

Btw, i just remembered that there is an opened ticket asking to fix the M1128 reload speed (Community Bug Reporting System), it should be 6 sec, not even acknowledge again :sob:

And apparently the M1128 have spallliners too

You’ve come the right place.

If you’re planning to buy F-20 TigerShark for top Tier then dont buy it.

It only has AGM-65B models and doesnt have any targeting pods, not to mention you will get swamped by Fox-3 carriers and Pantsir’s.

If you really want to buy something then just buy premium Apache(still not recommend it), its actually better thanks to Hellfires buff.

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Thanks for saving me wasting more money in this game lol

About helis, i already have the AH-64D, but i think its too hard to play since you need to keep the laser point to hit. Yeah you can fire it behind the mountains without the laser and, later, on last seconds, try to laser the target, still too difficult for me ;(((((( hahahaha

I dont get why apache cant get fire and forget longbow hellfires since the spike is already a thing in this game…

Their excuses is unlike Spikes missiles Hellfires doesnt get effected by smoke because it uses radar homing.

If they really want they can just make them susceptible to smoke covering but lets be honest,Gaijin doesnt care Apache’s at all.

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They also could give spikes for the apache (and other helis too), it would be all spikes all day

Well they are compatible with Us Apache’s and iirc they tested on AH-64E.

Weird thing is they claimed that 16 Spikes would be op on Apache’s but Gaijin decided to add Ah-60 with 16 Spikes :)

I guess it only becomes op when discussion is about Apache’s.

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I have the F-16C and F-15C in my US lineup but I have yet to spawn the F-16C with CAS loadout once in the last 3-4ish months. I usually spawn the F-15C with air to air only.

I’m just not interested in dealing with the Pantsir.

Armour is irrelevant, there’s no noticable increase in armour when you get penetrated from the first shot in either vehicle by anyone competent.

‘‘Similar forward speed’’ is a simple lie.

Reload rate, acceleration, top speed and reverse speed > Some meaningless additional armour.

We’ve been over this already, you seem to be the only one that holds that opinion.

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as a US main I will still say that is to an extent a skill issue along with the fact that the Abrams in game is indeed missing a large bit of hull armor

my man I have brought a uh-1c(xm-30) to top tier

If you can get there quick, it gets you to where you need to get to flank early on. And that shell isn’t bad at all… I just table Abrams cuz it’s easier, but it worked a lot. People try to bang with it, and it just ain’t made for that.

Same, my f15 is only for CAP. Never put a bomb load on it once.

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